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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
August 25 1
August 28 1 1
August 30 1 1
September 5 1
September 6 1 1
September 8 1
September 9 2
September 11 2 1
September 12 3 1
September 13 1
September 15 2
September 16 2
September 18 1
September 19 1 1
September 20 3
September 21 1 1
September 22 1
September 23 6 2
September 24 3 1
September 25 2
September 26 2
September 27 3 1
September 28 2
September 29 1 1
September 30 4 2
October 1 2 1
October 2 3 1
October 3 2
October 4 6 1
October 5 4
October 6 3 1
October 7 5 2
October 8 3 1
October 9 9 4
October 10 4 1
October 11 5 1
October 12 5 3
October 13 11 4
October 14 4 4
October 15 8 2
October 16 8 4
October 17 8 6
October 18 10 4
October 19 12 9
October 20 7 3
October 21 6 5
October 22 18 9
October 23 9 4
October 24 6 3
October 25 11 5
October 26 8 1
October 27 8 5
October 28 11 4
October 29 8 2
October 30 10 3
October 31 11 4
November 1 9 4
November 2 5
November 3 8
November 4
Total 295 115
Last updated 05:03, 4 November 2024 UTC
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Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on August 25

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2024 Ohio Issue 1

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  • ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
  • Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-gerrymandering-redistricting-bd589ead234436f1b113b35d28c71cc7#
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

No reason not to review it now; if it gets approved, it can be placed in the special occasion section set up for election hooks to run after the November election in the US. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starting review:

  • As noted above, this should be held until after the upcoming elections
    • That will in turn require updating wording like to be voted upon in the November 2024 election. It would be useful to mark this up with {{Update after}} reminders now, but I'll leave that for somebody else.
    • Obviously, if we run this after the election, it will need to be updated with the outcome and probably reactions.
  • New enough (created August 25, nominated the next day)
  • Long enough
  • QPQ exempt
  • Earwig calls out lots of text duplication, but it's all properly attributed quotes, so no worries there.
  • Since this is a controversial issue, I gave the sources a close look. For the most part, they appear to be WP:RS. I do see a few duplicated sources, which WP:REFILL can help fix, but that's not a DYK criterion.
  • The Official arguments section does a good job of hewing to WP:NPOV.
    • I am, however, somewhat concerned about the Support section. The large "Yes" box duplicates much of the preceding paragraph, is not balanced by a "No" box, probably violates MOS:EMBED, and is almost certainly incomplete today and at risk of going out of date at any point in the future. I'd drop it.
    • I'm also unconvinced that the Polling section is useful and probably violates WP:NPOV since it only lists one poll.
  • I pretty much agree with Andrevan about the hooks. Although they all get under the 200 character official limit, they're all excessively wordy, and not very interesting.
  • RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about the timing; as long as you get the nomination in on time, you're good. If we hold it up because of our rules, that's on us. RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RoySmith, ProfGray, I'm not nearly so sanguine that this one won't be closed on October 25 or 26 when it hits two months. If it's approved and in the special occasion section for nominations waiting for the election to be over, then there isn't a problem. If it's still not approved at the end of the coming week, there probably will be. I would respectfully suggest that ProfGray do whatever is necessary to get the article and/or hooks into such shape that the nomination can be passed during the coming week; any post-election edits can be made per whatever new information is relevant. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In response to points above -- the Polling section has been removed. The "Yes" support section has been balanced by a "No" opposition section. (I didn't happen to create this section, but I added a few opposing orgs and now it does seem balanced.) I adjusted some language to be more NPOV and I welcome any other concerns about the article. I will think about the hook, since it'd be great to run the DYK. I hadn't known about the two months conern.ProfGray (talk) 15:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the article looks better now. The only thing left is to work on the hooks. In general, short snappy hooks are better than long complicated ones. RoySmith (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It'd be great to get help with the hook. Personally, I find it interesting (fascinating, ironic, clever) that both the proponents and opponents claim to be against gerrymandering and both blame the other side for gerrymandering. The zany redistricting context is also interesting to me. But if these are not interesting, what would folks recommend for the hook? ProfGray (talk) 16:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would question whether a broad audience would know what gerrymandering was. Assuming it checks out, I suggest something less specific, like "that in the lead-up to the 2024 election, the summary of 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action".--Launchballer 12:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's an interesting point. My first thought was, "No, that's dumb. Of course everybody knows what gerrymandering is". But then as I read a bit of Gerrymandering I realized it's only an issue in places which use an election system similar to what we have in the US. If you are electing people based on total vote count across the entire electorate, it's not a thing. I don't honestly know enough about election systems around the world to know how many places it is a thing. RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, my concern was that knowing the word took knowing a fair bit about politics. (I have limited interest in the subject and only know the term because I was reading about Tesco, whose founder's daughter was behind the homes for votes scandal.)--Launchballer 15:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I should ping @ProfGray:.--Launchballer 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I added your suggested hook as ALT3. Btw, IMO gerrymandering would be fine for the hook and a link to the gerrymandering article goes to a clear definition. ProfGray (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: Could I ask that you assess my ALT3?--Launchballer 12:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • From a strictly copyediting point of view, how about shortening it to:
ALT3a: ... the ballot summary for 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs)
That's fine by me.--Launchballer 19:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 30

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Articles created/expanded on September 5

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Moses da Rieti

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Andre🚐 18:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A drive-by comment: this has the perennial form of "first" hooks, that even though we may have sources calling them first, there's a high likelihood of WP:ERRORS when someone notices the hook and remembers the existence of someone else using terza rima in Hebrew at an earlier date, overlooked by our source. To forestall this, can we maybe rewrite the hook to avoid the word "first"? Something like
—David Eppstein (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says Rieti was, in fact, the first Hebrew poet to use this form, and through his influence it was incorporated into Hebrew poetry by his successors. Andre🚐 00:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 22:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will say that although deserving {{lead too long}} isn't technically a disqualifier, I would politely suggest that having three quarters of the article up there is taking the mickey. Whether by expanding the rest or moving what's there, this should be fixed.--Launchballer 23:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is fair. There's a version of the article at User:GordonGlottal/sandbox that should address that. Andre🚐 00:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, I'm not going to demand that all that be copied in, but I will ask that what's currently in the article is rearranged (which is what I meant by "what's there").--Launchballer 22:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand. I think it would be better if we move the sandbox stuff in, hoping Gordon can get around to it. Andre🚐 16:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For now, I have gone ahead and moved part of the lead into an "Overview" section, though I expect this may change again when Gordon's draft is merged. I pinged him hoping that maybe we can do that before the review gets underway in earnest, but if not, at least I'll address the LEADLENGTH issue. Andre🚐 17:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 8

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Jewish dairy restaurant

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a full review, but the interesting thing about the article is the fact that Jewish dairy restaurants even exist in the first place, considering kosher laws. I'd suggest proposing hooks that focus specifically on that aspect, as least as possible options for the promoter, as the mere concept of the Jewish dairy restaurant is the elephant in the room here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Could you elaborate what you mean? Dairy restaurants are kosher. That is the entire point of them. The laws say not to mix milk and meat, that's why there isn't any meat at a dairyrestaurant. Andre🚐 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Yeah maybe there could be an ALT1 like:
A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure sounds good. Andre🚐 00:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do think the original hook is interesting, I only mentioned the suggestion above so that it could be offered as an option. It's probably best for a reviewer to make the final decision. I've slightly modified the original hook to give Trotsky's full name since not all readers may know who he is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a few! Andre🚐 23:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • To clarify Viriditas's concern, the reason I asked for a new review is more out of check-and-balance reasons. Personally I have a preference ALT1 (the straightforward hook), but others may disagree and think that the Trotsky angle is more interesting (and personally I do also find it interesting). Normally what I could have done is to approve both hooks and leave it to the promoter, but given how torn I am over the options I thought bringing in a third-party editor to give their own opinion would also help reach a proper consensus. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it: The subjects of Mr. Katchor’s new book, “The Dairy Restaurant” (Schocken, $29.95), were community cornerstones: cheap, filling refuges that made it possible for Jewish immigrants in New York to eat out according to kosher laws, by keeping milk and meat strictly separated, with fish, eggs and vegetables as neutral go-betweens. Good enough? If not, I'll check the book, though I can't do it tonight. Andre🚐 23:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really torn about what to write here. As a resident of the Bronx, I find ALT0 to be a wonderful hook. I had no idea Trotsky ever lived in the Bronx. The idea that I've literally walked down the block where he ate his meals just blows my mind. BTW, I found an ad for the Triangle Dairy Restaurant in the Daily Worker, https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/pubs/dailyworker/1929/1929-ny/v05-n344-NY-feb-08-1929-DW-LOC.pdf, page 3, rightmost column. And a photograph. But, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE says avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to which would seem to rule out the Trotsky hook. Still, it's such a great hook, I'd say WP:IAR and use it. RoySmith (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, very cool finds. "Comrades, Patronize The Triangle Dairy Restaurant." Love it. Andre🚐 23:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a fact to the article, from a cited NYT review of the book, which could make a good hook: ... that growth of Jewish dairy restaurants was aided by better commercial refrigeration and periodic "meat strikes" against the high cost of kosher butchers? ProfGray (talk) 04:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is an interesting tidbit, but it feels like it would be hard to properly explain within the space of a hook, the meat strikes I mean. The refrigeration thing is also interesting. I mean I guess it's a hook that pulls you in and says, what the heck do you mean, meat strikes? But then we don't really explain what they actually did or were in the article ... yet..., but it may be difficult to do so. I'll have to see what Katchor says about it in the full text. Andre🚐 05:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[1][2] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is a great fact, though it's more about B&H Dairy. While I did include it in that article, I omitted it from this one, though not intentionally. We could shove it into this article but I'm not sure that I like it better than the Trotsky hook or the Narutolovehinata5 special edition straightforward hook. Also, ProfGray figured out about the meat strikes, they were the 1902 kosher meat boycott. That could make that fact usable. Andre🚐 23:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I found a place to sneak it into the article and it went in easier than I thought, so you have a Viriditas special edition pluralistic ALT4.[1] Andre🚐 23:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my reading of the above, I think this article is ready for a full review. Z1720 (talk) 22:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the article is ready for review. ProfGray made some improvements and I also added the info Viriditas suggested for ALT4. Please let me know if we should spell out ALT4 or if it's clear enough from the earlier conversation. Andre🚐 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrevan: There is a citation needed tag on this article.--Launchballer 16:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll remove that statement for now (cc @ProfGray) Andre🚐 16:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Jewish dairy restaurant: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia". en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 2024-10-13.

Articles created/expanded on September 9

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Alison Creagh

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Alison Creagh
Alison Creagh
Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 431 past nominations.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment (not a review). The COI banner on the article (with circumstances detailed on the article talk page) needs to be resolved before this can feature in DYK. Cleanup banners are not intended as a permanent mark of shame for articles, but rather to indicate that something can and should be cleaned up. The question then becomes: do the circumstances described on the talk page mean that there is a COI that should be cleaned up? What must be done to the article to clean it up so this banner can be removed? —David Eppstein (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:WTRMT: neutrality-related templates such as {{COI}} (associated with the conflict of interest guideline) or {{POV}} (associated with the neutral point of view policy) strongly recommend that the tagging editor initiate a discussion (generally on the article's talk page) to support the placement of the tag. If the tagging editor failed to do so, or the discussion is dormant, and there is no other support for the template, it can be removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An organisation offers you all kind of help so you can write better or more articles about an event they are heavily involved in, and you then write an article about the CEO of that organisation. How is that not a blatant COI? And I have not made any personal attacks about you, and I haven't made any comment whatsoever about David Eppstein, so I have no idea where you see any personal attacks on them. Anyway, I'll raise this at the COIN board. Fram (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Without getting into whether or not this should run, WP:DYKTAG explicitly allows articles with COI tags.--Launchballer 23:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For context, reviewers should be aware of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Alison Creagh.--Launchballer 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Engelbrecht !Nawatiseb

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  • Source: "Former Deputy Minister of Information and Communication Technology Engel Nawatiseb has parted ways with the Landless People’s Movement (LPM) after joining the party a mere month ago." -[3]
  • ALT1: ... that Engel Nawatiseb left the Landless People's Movement due to disagreements about who should drive during the party's fifth anniversary celebration? Source: "The source further claimed that these party members felt threatened by Nawatiseb’s position in the party. “People felt why is it only Nawatiseb driving the car and not them?” the source said. Following the complaints, the party allegedly took the car from Nawatiseb.", and "Another party source said Nawatiseb was insulted by a powerful young leader in the party about the usage of the car. “Apparently he wasn’t sharing the car with others. But once a car is assigned to you, it’s difficult to share, because once it is broken it becomes your responsibility,” another party source said. The source said the car was taken away a day after the party’s fifth anniversary. “On Sunday morning when they took the car, they embarrassed and insulted the man,” the source said." [4]
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Created by Samoht27 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

-Samoht27 (talk) 23:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I may review this nomination later today, but a quick comment is that while the source goes into detail about why !Nawatiseb was chosen to drive the car, why other party leaders were supposedly upset, and ostensible explanations as to why the car was reassigned, the article itself only talks about !Nawatiseb's embarrassment over the car being taken. I really like the second hook, but the disagreements should be detailed (or at least mentioned explicitly) in the article for the nomination to pass. Yue🌙 17:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also, I think it should be "a celebration of the party's fifth anniversary", because to my understanding he was to drive for the celebration in a specific part of Namibia, as he was the only person qualified in that area. Yue🌙 17:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: References were spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. Both hooks are verified, but I prefer ALT1. However, I propose to the promoter this rewording of ALT1, which incorporates ALT0:

ALT2: ... that Engel Nawatiseb reportedly left the Landless People's Movement just a month after joining because of disagreements over who should drive during the party's fifth anniversary celebration?

The sources are the two already given. Yue🌙 20:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to butt in, but the article isn't good enough for DYK. At first, I intended to remove the stub tag (we don't run stubs at DYK) but it's arguably still a stub. There is nothing outside of his political career; no early life, education, or what he did before politics. The article therefore fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE. Secondly, the date and place of birth are both unreferenced and that's a violation of WP:BLP. Thirdly, about half the article deals with controversies and that feels unbalanced; hence it fails WP:NPOV. There's a lot more work required to get this ready. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Schwede66 08:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Samoht27 did you see the above? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29 Yes, I did, I addressed the issues within the article and informed Schwede66 about the changes.-Samoht27 (talk) 15:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they did, AirshipJungleman29. It’s the last item in my talk page archive 46. I did not understand why the note was not placed here and me being informed via a ping as it hardly makes sense to to start a conversation in a separate place. Either way, I replied that I would leave it to the reviewer to assess. But now I see that the reviewer doesn’t know anything about this as there isn’t anything here about the matter. Which just demonstrates why discussions ought to be kept in one place! Schwede66 16:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66: Is there anything else that needs to happen before this is approved? If not, are you willing to approve this hook, or should we ping the original reviewer? Z1720 (talk) 22:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 11

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Pabhāvatī

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Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 11:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough and long enough, no QPQ is needed. The article seems mostly sourced to the primary source, but having a quick search I am satisfied the subject has further coverage. While the source given in this nomination is non-English and without a page number, the hook is sourced in the article to the primary source which does support it. The article would be improved by the use of page numbers for sources. I am unsure about the image copyright, I do not think it can be own work as it is a photograph of an artwork. CMD (talk) 09:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Chipmunkdavis:, Thank you for reviewing my first DYK submission. The 'ancient-buddhist-texts' English source is a primary source, but I added it mainly for clarity and better understanding in English. The article is fully supported by the Burmese source, and even without the 'ancient-buddhist-texts' reference, it remains comprehensive. The Burmese source, Kutha Zatdaw (PDF), Myanmar Alin (in Burmese), 16 June 2005, p. 10, is sufficient to cover the entire article. An article from the Myanmar Academy of Arts and Science is also an additional reference that can be used to verify the entire content of the article. If you're unable to verify the Burmese source, please feel free to seek assistance from other Burmese-speaking editors. And I added more English source and page numbers.
Regarding the image, the Buddhist temple artwork is not copyrighted, which is a common case in Myanmar. Buddhist Jataka tales are often depicted in many temples and monasteries across Myanmar. For instance, File:071 The Defeat of Alavaka (9022063790).jpg is an example. In Myanmar and Thailand, temple arts of Buddha cosmology are generally not subject to copyright. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, it is an interesting article. On the sources, there is no specific issue with non-English sources (although the English backup is appreciated), but as a general point I would suggest including page numbers next to specific claims for all languages. Would you have a link for more information about that copyright situation? CMD (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I’m not an expert on copyright, I’m not sure how to explain it very well. I do know that Myanmar is not a freedom of panorama country, but the Aung Myin Dipa Temple in Patheingyi was established around 1880 by Min Dipa, a minister and court official in King Thibaw's court. The paintings in the temple seem old, but there is no indication of the year they were made or the owner’s name. So, they could be considered under the PD-Myanmar license. However, I don’t want to delay or cause any arguments, so it’s fine to promote my DYK without the photo. I’m withdrawing the photo for now. Pls kindly review. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 02:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. CMD (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with tone remain, see discussions at WT:DYK and the teahouse. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I need some time to pass this. I’ve asked for help from the most senior Burmese editor, but still offline. Hteiktinhein (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 12

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Cannonball (MILW train)

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The Cannonball in Milwaukee, 1966
The Cannonball in Milwaukee, 1966
  • ... that Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had a commuter train nicknamed the Cannonball operating between suburban Watertown until 1972?
  • Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3
  • Reviewed:
Created by Central Corridor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Central Corridor (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @Central Corridor:, and welcome to DYK. I'm not doing a full review, but I will provide you with some feedback to help out. Firstly, I have tagged some uncited statements in the article that will need to be cited before this article can pass DYK per WP:DYKCITE. Second, I think the proposed hook will not meet the interesting requirement. It simply states a basic fact that even I, someone obsessed with trains to the point they're in my username, do not find particularly interesting. Fortunately, there are some things in the article that we can use to support a better hook. I was drawn to the sentence "The Cannonball gained a reputation for parties that frequently occurred on the Friday night train outbound from Milwaukee. Passengers brought aboard drinks to share, a band played, and the train often held at intermediate stops to replenish beer and ice."
Based on that sentence, here's my proposed hook: "... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball was often the site of parties with a live band and drinks on Friday nights?"
One other idea would be a hook about how 89% of riders on the pilot program said they would keep riding the train, yet it still wasn't restored. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Central Corridor: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The nominator has not edited since October 7, 2024. This nomination may need to be adopted to move forward. Flibirigit (talk) 23:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have adopted this nomination. I was able to modify one uncited sentence and add a source. I am working on the others, but I’m afraid I may have to remove them. Viriditas (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, @Viriditas:! Please comment here when it's ready for me to start the full review. Flibirigit (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

U Wasawa

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Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hello Hteiktinhein! DYK is user driven, with various incentives to review hooks such as to complete their QPQ, interest, or simply goodwill. Predominantly foreign-language sourced articles or longer articles tend to take time to review due to the necessity to verify the various points. It is important to understand that, because sometimes it can take hours or even months, with no guarantee on the article being reviewed as soon as you want it to. Patience is important, and it is important to keep in mind there is no inherent rush for the nomination to move forward once it has been put out there. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi @Hteiktinhein: I'm sorry you've had such a long wait to get this article reviewed. I have some problems about this article. In the lead paragraph, you say that "Local media have referred to him as a "Buddhist terrorist"", but (unless I've missed it) neither this Myanmar Now article, this RFA article, nor this Frontier Myanmar article use the phrase. Also, as a person unfamiliar with Burmese politics, this article confuses me. Some of these sources seem laudatory of U Wasawa (for example this National Post blog), but they are being treated as reliable sources for an article which is largely critical of him. Can we explain why some sources are for him and some are against? And how the various groups in this article are related? Why the YMBA support him and what the title "Mingala Dhamma Jotikadhaja" means? As this article is, I don't think it can go forward. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 15:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 13

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Virginia Beach Police Department

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Created by SSBelfastFanatic (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Erin (SSBelfastFanatic) (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Promising factoid, but with no provided citation to back it up here. Article was created 15 days ago (on September 3)—a week and change beyond the normal eligibility deadline—but became an AFC graduate on the 13th, so at least we're good here. Said article also has a {{more sources needed section}} banner, which fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE and might as well be addressed ASAP. To the editor now known as @PhoenixCaelestis: As far as your DYK skills are concerned, you're starting to get there, and with two go-rounds in this arena so far, I'll forgive you for that. Wishing you luck next time, and best of editing! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 12:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson: I have solved the tag by yeeting the whole section and several others, that one per WP:DUE.--Launchballer 14:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson: Is this approved? If not, what does @PhoenixCaelestis: have to do? I note that your review makes no mention of a copyright check and I think you should do one.--Launchballer 21:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 15

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Czarodziejski okręt

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 521 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It surprises me that this nomination has waited this long, Piotrus, because the topic is interesting and the article is very easy to read. It seems, however, that the article fails the first of the DYK criteria: newness. It was created on 15 September and nominated on 24 September. I would be happy to overlook this if it did not mean almost certainly getting dragged at WT:DYK. If it is any consolation, there are small things that would need to be worked on before the article is eligible anyway, so now you are spared extra work. Surtsicna (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:DYKNEW, seven days can be extended for a day or two upon request.--Launchballer 17:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is very helpful. I much prefer to be strict with article size and comprehensiveness than with newness, and this article is certainly of a decent size. I think the translation "The Magic Ship" needs to be clearly marked as an unofficial/unpublished literal translation and should probably be avoided in this hook. Quotation marks should be used for quotes instead of italics per MOS:ITALICS. The women mentioned in the Analysis section should probably be described with their profession (e.g. literary critics). Kuliczkowska's comment about a "spoiled millionaire" and the criticism of the portrayal of the husband do not seem to be contradictory, so "though" is probably the wrong word to use in that sentence. Of these, only the translation is a substantial issue. Surtsicna (talk) 19:01, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nathania Ong

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Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 171 past nominations.

KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: that's a reasonable point, though this was what I deemed to be the most interesting "factoid" in the article. And even if it really were the case (that this is "actually not uncommon"), how many times have such hooks appeared on DYK? It sure can't beat the river-related hooks of yesteryear 😆 KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 16

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Krzyż i półksiężyc

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 524 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Krwawy chleb

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 523 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

WP:QPQ: A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.--Launchballer 00:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: Per a recent rule change as a result of this discussion, the old rule where QPQs must be provided within a week of the nomination has been phased out. Instead, QPQs should be provided at the time of the nomination, and any nomination that does not immediately provide a QPQ is liable for closure. Doing the QPQs "later this week" is no longer sufficient: they have to be given at the time of the nomination, and you must provide them as soon as possible if you do not want your nominations to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Launchballer and Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the heads up. I am not very happy with this change. I've always done my QPQs on time, with submission (and I've done hundreds of them), but just recently someone translated a bunch of my articles form pl wiki without heads up, and I am trying to rescue some of them for DYKs within the time period - and I am a bit busy IRL so for the first time I delayed QPQ. And then this happens. Sigh. You know you can trust me do to my QPQs, no? It's not like I will drop noms here and run. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that a QPQ was provided for this nom, so it needs a full review.--Launchballer 21:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 18

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The United States of America (album)

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  • ALT1: ... that the title of the 1968 album The United States of America was intended to be a political statement akin to "hanging the flag upside down"?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Had to find an alternate source that I could easily link to as the article uses a book source
Improved to Good Article status by Iostn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Iostn (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

It would be brilliant. But add the italics and the quotation marks and it should work reasonably well on any day. Surtsicna (talk) 20:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article was promoted to GA status 5 days before the DYK nomination. It is, unsurprisingly, also long enough and it meets the sourcing, neutrality, and copyright requirements. The hooks proposed by Iostn are fine, but there is a clear potential for something much grander. See Launchballer's suggestion. We rarely get such gems in the rough, Iostn, but let me know if you cannot bother and I will approve your original hook. Surtsicna (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Surtsicna, I think I'm going to hang on with this nom and wait for the April Fools' proposal, if possible Iostn (talk) 15:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Iostn: While quirky, I do not think this hook fits the spirit of the type of hooks used in the April Fools DYK set. Z1720 (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 20

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Gitmo playlist

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5x expanded by Based5290 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Khun Tan (mystic)

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Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1-a: ... that, in hopes of gaining good luck, six girls from the Alantaya area were married to Khun Tan, a layman who claimed to be the future Buddha?

ALT1-b: ... that Khun Tan, a young guy, is worshipped as a bodhisattva in the Alantaya religious area?

ALT1-c: ... that girls in the Alantaya religious area believe that marrying the layman Khun Tan would bring blessings? Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Genocide in the Hebrew Bible

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Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 05:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I don't see the hook in the article. It is OR to interpret labelling one's enemy "Amalek" as applying biblical command to "spare no one". I haven't checked the sources, but the article does not support the hook. Srnec (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the original hook I was thinking of is ALT1 below but I wasn't sure if it would be accepted either.
  • ALT1: ... that genocide in the Hebrew Bible has been cited as an inspiration by the Crusaders, Rwandan Hutu, and Israeli leaders? (t · c) buidhe 02:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll take a stab at this. I trust Buidhe to be the subject expert and do good research, but I concur that the section on "Justification for violence" here is a bit underdeveloped for the hooks proposed. I can't find the text of the article clearly confirming ALT0. As for ALT1, I'd ask "justification for what"? Carrying genocide? But that is not clear from the short quote about Pope Urban in the 11th century and then... Martin Luther? Did Luther called or tried to justify some genocide? I'd ask for that section to be expanded, clearly stating who said what, and in particular, who might have tried to justify genocide. The second paragraph in that section is more clear, and perhaps an ALT2 about "Genocide in the Hebrew Bible being used by Israeli leaders to justify their actions in the Israel-Hamas war" might be fine, and would probably draw more views too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alt1 isn't about justification, rather inspiration. Leaving aside Luther's arguably genocidal stated beliefs about Jewish people, something along the lines of your hook may be better. (t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that Israeli leaders have described their enemies in the current Gaza war as targets of divinely commanded genocide?

(t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 22

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Barquq Castle

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Barquq Castle
Barquq Castle
  • ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
  • Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

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Korzeniacy, czyli Jesień wsamrazków

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 527 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Muthkwey

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  • ... that məθkʷəy̓ was not harvested or walked over, because it had grown from the droppings of a two-headed serpent?
  • Reviewed: Noken system
  • Comment: Will work on the QPQ shortly, thank you to the reviewer in advance! Done the QPQ!
Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

Ornithoptera (talk) 23:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Narutolovehinata5, the "weird spelling" in question is the Americanist phonetic notation that is used for Indigenous North American languages. Like many terms in the languages of the Pacific Northwest Coast, məθkʷəy̓ is not "romanized" in the traditional sense because they still use Latin characters and contemporary inclusions of the notation are often unedited, such as "ʔálʔal Café" rather than "All-all Cafe" I will provide some examples of such:
For further reading, here is a quote from the University of British Columbia on the matter: "In the 1970’s, the Musqueam community began their journey towards language revitalization, and formally adopted the North American Phonetic Alphabet (NAPA). NAPA allows the sounds of hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ to be more accurately conveyed in writing. The symbols that may be unfamiliar to you, including ə, q̓, θ, xʷ, and more have corresponding phonetics that you can learn in order to pronounce written hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓."
There is no "standard" transliteration, most English language sources refer to the plant as məθkʷəy̓ with no alteration. The article title was based on the one that Wayne Suttles employed in his 2004 Musqueam Reference Grammar, but there are multiple ways to transliterate this term without a standardized form, nor is there much of a need to, as the base of the notation are Latin characters. I thought it would be ideal to use the term with no alteration as many other sources have before. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I was asking because, from what I remember, DYK usually doesn't use non-Latin characters in hooks. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline about it (I think using the language template?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To my understanding Narutolovehinata5, the Americanist phonetic notation is (to a degree) the Latin alphabet, and I'm sure there have been instances where letters such as Þ or ð have made their way into DYK before. For the record, I am comfortable with adjusting it if at the end of the day it is in violation of DYK guidelines, but I thought it might be good to have my thoughts on the matter before jumping the gun. I do hope that there isn't a double standard for some non-standard characters from certain languages over others. Ornithoptera (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sonya Friedman

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  • ... that self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman published a book on women who were monogamous with two men at the same time?
Created by Silver seren (talk) and Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 129 past nominations.

SilverserenC 23:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Issue with the use of the word monogamous in ALT0
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough (moved from draft to mainspace on 23 Sept), long enough, neutral and plagiarism-free. ALT3 has its own set of issues so I'm putting that aside. ALT1 and ALT2 are hooks that feature the name of books published by the subject in a quirky but somewhat confusing way. My preference is for ALT0, but this hook has its own problems, as it's based on Friedman's steamy, self-help book Secret Loves: Women with Two Lives (1994), which plays with the definition of monogamy ("the practice or state of being married to one person at a time; the practice or state of having a sexual relationship with only one partner") by redefining a form of non-monogamy ("any relationship style that involves more than one partner, or having sex with people outside of a primary relationship") as a kind of monogamous polyandry, which is a contradiction in terms. How to resolve this? The source for the hook is a newspaper interview, where Friedman says the women in question are married to one man and having an affair with a second, which she describes as "monogamous-to two men". But by definition, that's a form of polyandry, which is non-monogamous. Someone help me square this circle! Viriditas (talk) 01:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose if we wanted to be cheeky, we could wikilink monogamous in the hook to polyandry instead of monogamy. Otherwise, we could just unlink it and put it in quotations. SilverserenC 01:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I look directly at the book, I can see that she is attempting to address the psychology of adultery by placing it in the context of the assumed, unreasonable social expectations of herterosexual monogamy, and by doing this, she shows that these are extramarital affairs, which contrasts with consensual non-monogamy or open relationships. The author, a clinical psychologist, explains that the women whose stories she collected were responding to a pathological situation in their life: "the wives in essentially unhealthy relationships sought healthier ones." Obviously, she can't discuss this longform in a brief interview, so I think what she meant to say was not that they are "monogamous-to two men", but rather they are psychologically dedicated to two men, one of whom fulfills them on one level, and a second on another. For the author, this is a form of monogamy because the women she studied don't go beyond that, but this is not a normal use of the term. More importantly, she does not use the term like this in the book. It might be best to create another hook. Viriditas (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is ALT4 I just added above, Viriditas? SilverserenC 03:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Sankar Montoute

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  • ... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 251 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Expandable card game

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 519 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I think there is an issue with the article, which is that going by the most of the sources in the article and the hook source, the WP:COMMONTERM appears to be "living card game", and therefore that should be the title of the article and the boldlink. For related reasons I think ALT1 is actually the more interesting hook, though it would benefit from rephrasing to make it punchier. I'm keen to hear other opinions. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 23:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dalibor Riccardi

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  • Source: San Marino RTV mentions (translated) "Passionate about sports, he played football at a competitive level"; Soccerway has 71 matches in national football league
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is slightly above the seven-day limit (it was closer to eight days after creation), but WP:DYKNEW has a built-in two day extension so that should be acceptable given that the article has no other issues. The hook is interesting and cited to both English and Italian-language sources. Assuming good faith for the Italian source, but a translation seems to verify that he played football. A full QPQ has been done. I didn't detect any close paraphrasing. My only real concern is the hook, and this is more of a minor wording issue: it reads a bit weird and could quickly become outdated since he will only be a Captain-Regent for six months. So maybe a slightly reworded hook that better fits the "unlikely to change" wording would be better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kazimierz Sakowicz

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5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 525 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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Culinary Class Wars

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Senior judge Paik Jong-won is a celebrity chef in Korea.
Senior judge Paik Jong-won is a celebrity chef in Korea.
  • ALT1 ... that the judges of the Culinary Class Wars suffered from eating so much but Paik Jong-won (pictured) still ate his packed lunch too?
    • Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Windershaker (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

    Andrew🐉(talk) 20:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • At the time of nomination the article was exactly 7 days old (which fits I guess), and the length seems to fit standard. There are some good English sources and a lot of Korean coverage, so I don't doubt that this is notable. Earwig says no copyvios, but the article is a bit messy. (Why does the "endless cooking hell" section have nothing in it, for one?) Most importantly, the hook is also little bit vague, and I don't think it would capture much attention. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 17:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    * @Z1720: The article looks in better shape now, but the alt you provided is not well written, nor would it be very interesting if it was. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 02:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Z1720: Thanks to Z1720 for taking an interest. I'm not understanding Wuju Daisuki's objections to the ALT1 hook, which seems fine to me. Maybe we just have different tastes. To help avoid an impasse and establish a consensus, please could Z1720 say what they think of the hooks? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Andrew Davidson: My opinion is that I am confused by ALT1 because I do not know who Paik Jong-won is. After looking at the image caption and clicking on Jong-won's link I was able to piece together that he is a judge, but it takes too long for me to understand the hook. I like ALT0 more because it is succinct and understandable. If the image is going to be used, it needs to be included in the article. Z1720 (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hanif Kureshi

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    Converted from a redirect by Ktin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 106 past nominations.

    Ktin (talk) 01:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Slop (artificial intelligence)

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    “Shrimp Jesus” is a commonly cited example of AI slop
    “Shrimp Jesus” is a commonly cited example of AI slop
    • ... that slop emerged in 2024 over “pollution”, “garbage” and “dross” as the preferred term to describe low-quality AI-generated material?
    • Reviewed: N/a
    • Comment: First own DYK nomination. I like this one because a lot of people contributed (images, categorizations). Feels very fresh.
    Created by Jenny8lee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Jenny8lee (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Welcome to DYK Jenny8lee, I hope you have a wonderful time here, and I hope I can help facilitate your entry the best I can! Created and nominated within a week, long enough, sourced and neutral. QPQ not required because of the nominator being below 5 nominations. I have some questions regarding the hook, since the original article's wording was as such:
    "One increasingly intuitive answer is “garbage.” The neuroscientist Erik Hoel has called it “A.I. pollution,” and the physicist Anthony Aguirre “something like noise” and “A.I.-generated dross.”"
    It seems like these terms were used by one or two people, rather than being in use beyond those individuals quoted within the article. I believe it might be a good idea to re-word the hook(something along the lines of "AI slop has been referred to as "garbage", "pollution", and "dross"), or find something else altogether. The quotes within the lead of the article should be attributed to their sources as well. In addition, I'm not entirely sure whether the AI generated image is free (regarding the copyright of a derivative work, this is a fairly new policy as well). I'm going to ping @Theleekycauldron: to see what they think regarding the matter. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • ALT1 that thousands of people showed up in Dublin, Ireland for a non-existent Halloween parade due to an article on an AI-produced website in what became a viral example of AI slop in the physical world.

    Source 1: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dublin-fake-halloween-parade-ireland-ai-advert-b2639505.html Source 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/opinion/ai-annoying-future.html

    Phoebe Plummer

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    Created by Launchballer (talk) and Folkezoft (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 253 past nominations.

    Launchballer 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Old City of Gaza, Old City of Nablus

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    Church of Saint Porphyrius and the Katib al-Wilaya Mosque
    Church of Saint Porphyrius and the Katib al-Wilaya Mosque
    • Source: Awad, Jihad (2017-01-15). "Conserving the Palestinian Architectural Heritage". International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintenance. 1 (3): 454. doi:10.2495/ha-v1-n3-451-460. ISSN 2058-833X. The old city of Nablus has suffered, probably more than any other Palestinian city, from the massive invasion by Israeli forces during the second uprising which started in 2000. Many restoration projects were previously completed by the municipality but unfortunately destroyed by the Israeli bombing of the old city. Many buildings were heavily damaged by Israeli rockets during April 2002. A project was carried out by UNDP and funded by the Japanese government to rebuild the houses. Then in December of 2003, many houses were again damaged during Israeli military activity. This kept recurring: buildings were repaired and then damaged.
      Mraffko, Clothilde; Forey, Samuel (2024-02-14). "Israeli bombs are wiping out Gaza's heritage and history". Le Monde.fr. Retrieved 2024-09-29. Whether the Israelis act intentionally or not, "the result is effectively the erasure of a heritage and a history. Symbolically, this is important because this is one of the ways in which people are attached to their territory," warned Benoît Tadié, former cultural adviser to the French consulate general in Jerusalem between 2009 and 2013. He takes as an example the Old City of Gaza, which, like much of the north of the enclave, is now a vast field of ruins. "It wasn't just a site, it was also the heart of today's city. The hammam and the Pacha's Palace were extremely popular places. The museum also served as a place of education for schoolchildren," explained Tadié.
    Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 80 past nominations.

    Onceinawhile (talk) 09:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thanks Launchballer. All the sources are in the bibliography - let me add in-line citations throughout where they have been missed. I will confirm when done.
    On the Jihad Awad source, I am confident that it is reliable - Professor Awad is full professor of architecture, currently head of architecture department at Ajman University, and this paper (a conference submission) is cited in his official University biography page. He subsequently published an article covering a similar topic here. The statement is not difficult to source elsewhere if needed. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fine by me. Full review needed.--Launchballer 03:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    WIT Press conferences are scams. That source must absolutely be replaced. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds

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    Improved to Good Article status by PanagiotisZois (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Launchballer: Thank you for contributing to the discussion. :) Taking that into account, would ALT0 work as "that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds focusing on a gay man who pretends being straight to seduce another man came from writer-director Phillip J. Bartell's desire to invert the first film's premise?"? I can come up with a few alternatives if needed. PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    ALT2 still violates that policy I'm afraid, and I still think ALT1 is more interesting. I would however suggest a slightly shorter version of ALT1 per WP:DYKTRIM, ALT1a: ... that a scene in Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds caused many actors to drop out?. Full review needed.--Launchballer 20:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Launchballer: I fear that if ALT1 is trimmed, it will end up becoming less interesting. On the one hand, it can be argued that it creates a sense of mystery. As in, "why did many actors drop out?". But on the other hand, the idea that actors dropped out of a role because the character has sex in a portable toilet is definitely unique and will also catch people's attention; I think. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I can see arguments either way, I'll let a reviewer/promoter decide.--Launchballer 22:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    PanagiotisZois, this is not a review either, but I'm afraid retaining ALT1's bit about sex in a toilet would be borderline "excessively sensational or gratuitous" as per WP:DYKINT; concealing the scene in question through ALT1a should arguably make for an "Intriguing hook that leaves the reader wanting to know more". Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @PanagiotisZois: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think this requires PZ's attention as there is still a valid hook on this page, i.e. ALT1a. This needs a reviewer.--Launchballer 23:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Roger Farmer (American football)

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    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 257 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria. Recently promoted to GA status. No issues with tone / neutrality nor with plagiarism. Hook is reasonably attractive. Sourced to a NFL record sheet / database. At some point I thought DYK frowned upon hooks like "the first x from y". But, I am not able to find that discussion. Nevertheless, I am happy to mark this hook approved. That said, if the nominator wants to attempt a different hook, I am available for a review. Handing this back to the nominator. QPQ done. Ktin (talk) 15:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This hook fails the interestingness check in my view. Someone is going to be the first NFL player from Barbados, and so all this is really telling me is that it's a guy named Roger Farmer; there's zero element of surprise. Sdkb talk 04:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Will see if I can come up with an alt hook tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Could do something like: ALT1 ... that Roger Farmer was among the first two NFL players to come from his high school, to come from his college, and to come from his country? (refs 14/15/16) BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Might be me, but, this is hard to follow as a statement and I personally don't think it is adding to the 'interestingness'. Ktin (talk) 04:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There have also been several of these "first NFL player from X" hooks proposed lately. Given the recent pushback against "first" hooks, it might be safer to go with a completely different angle here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ktin, Narutolovehinata5, and Sdkb: Maybe something like ALT2 ... that Roger Farmer made the NFL despite playing in college for small schools that mainly had "terrible records"? ("he went to Eastern Arizona, which had terrible records both years he was there ... In 1976 ... he came to Baker along with several Arizona recruits from junior colleges ... While Farmer started, Baker had a terrible 1976 record") BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yup, that works. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11: There are two things that I am not comfortable with -- 1. What is a "small school"? There is no objective agreed definition and I do not think we should send that phrase to the homepage. 2. Though I see your attempt to add terrible records within double quotes, it still comes across as WP:WIKIVOICE and imo that phrase should not go to the homepage. Ktin (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Negussie Roba

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    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Pablo Barragán

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    Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2119 past nominations.

    Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: New and long enough, at 2223 characters; the hook isn't interesting enough, so could you suggest an alt hook? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Figureskatingfan: I've taken a look at the article, hoping to propose an alternate hook, but unfortunately nothing stands out that would meet WP:DYKINT. Even the review quote seems to be more about Schumann Quartet rather than Barragán specifically. Unfortunately the article as currently written doesn't seem to have any content that would make for non-specialist hooks, so I would recommend failing the nomination for lack of DYKINT-meeting material. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5:, I respectfully disagree. If Gerda doesn't mind, I have a suggestion:
    • ALT1: ... that clarinetist Pablo Barragán from Andalusia has performed in music festivals and played as a soloist with orchestras throughout Europe? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Thank you for the offer, but why would you prefer such a general thing - which says about nothing about the quality of those venues, and nothing about the specific gifts of this person because it's true for almost all performers with an article on Wikipedia. It's so general that he could be a jazz clarinetist or a klezmer clarinetist. Wigmore Hall is The hall for chamber musicians. - I am sorry that I don't have time for a better hook right now, just returning from travel, with an article on the Main page about a person who just died, and whom I saw a few weeks ago. His hook was specific, and I go for hooks that are true for the person in question and nobody else. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      ps: the 2011 hook for Epitaphium, remembered in the context, also mentioned Wigmore Hall: ... that Epitaphium, composed for string trio by Graham Waterhouse, is performed today in Wigmore Hall in a memorial concert for his father, the bassoonist William Waterhouse? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Gerda, that's the trouble with non-experts trying to come up with something about something they know very little about. I was going for something more general, but if you and Grimes2 are fine with the hook being about something as specific as your hook, I'm fine with that. I will also take your word that playing Brahms in London is impressive and interesting. As your reviewer, I'm also fine with your taking as much time as you need. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Thank you. I heard this impressive player at the Casals Forum which is possibly the #4 hall in the world, but I refrained from mentioning that event because he was part of a mixed program (watch), while in the Clarinet Quintet, as the name tells, he is the first (among equals). Playing chamber music is actually more demanding than playing with an orchestra, more individual so to speak, and it tells a lot about this person that he pursues it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      With the best will in the world, a hook that boils down to "a musician from a place played a piece by one of the most famous composers in history with other musicians in a concert hall" is about as general as you can get. If a hook relies on specialist knowledge—such as Wigmore Hall being the hall for chamber musicians, or chamber music telling you a lot about the person—to be interesting, then it's fairly clear that WP:DYKINT is not met. I'd also request that Gerda write another hook. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I doesn't "rely" because we have links, to both the hall as well as the the music. Those who know both will be intrigued, and for others, they should still get that this person from southern Spain plays German music with a German quartet in England, which - for my taste - says the same as "all over Europe" but more precisely and therefore better. Did you watch him play? I had the alarm clock before 5 in the morning, - please have patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      That's ... not what "played all over Europe" means at all ... but sure, have as much time as you want (within WP:DYKTIMEOUT, ofc). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Sorry, I was not clear perhaps. Phrases such as "all over Europe" drive me crazy as saying nothing in their general vagueness, - promotional speak. Mentioning international collaboration of Spanish and German musicians at an English place seems so much more honest and precise, and now that place is even the most highly appreciated one you could think of, and then you tell me it's not interesting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The main issue here is that, as mentioned above, such a hook would require knowing Wigmore Hall's prestige or at least familiarity with it, which most readers would not have. It would not meet WP:DYKINT, specifically likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest (emphasis mine). Knowing Wigmore Hall, its prestige, or its context, counts as special knowledge and thus limits the hook's audience. Even with the link, the interest of the hook has to be self-evident. Without the context, readers would just think that performing at the venue was no different from performing at any venue. Many readers will not bother to click the link and learn more, so ideally, the context has to be apparent right from the get go. This is not to say that the angle is unsalvageable, just that there might be a better way to present it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I patiently disagree. Repeating: the hook speaks of collaboration between Spanish and German musicians in England (even without knowing Wigmore Hall, but our 2011 readers know Wigmore Hall already). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Financial Times : "If western chamber music has a mecca, it's London's Wigmore Hall." https://www.ft.com/content/605a4f2a-d7a8-11e0-a06b-00144feabdc0

    ALT2: ...that after Pablo Barragán played the Brahms Clarinet Quintet with the Schumann Quartet at London's Wigmore Hall, a reviewer said they were "poised and searching", with Barragan as first among equals? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fine. Grimes2 (talk) 09:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The hook is 199 characters which is just under the length limit. It also crams in a lot of details that might distract readers. At the very least it is prime for a trimming. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2a: ...that after Pablo Barragán played the Brahms Clarinet Quintet with the Schumann Quartet at London's Wigmore Hall, a reviewer said they were "poised and searching"?
    As said above, in a clarinet quintet the clarinetist is always the first among equals. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Henri Claireaux

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    • Source: [6] ("Mais, plus importante fut l'introduction, pour la première fois, d'une représentation directe au Parlement français ... De 1947 à nos jours, Saint-Pierre et Miquelon a eu trois sénateurs : Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)... [But more important was the introduction, for the first time, of direct representation in the French Parliament ... From 1947 to the present day, Saint-Pierre and Miquelon has had three senators: Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)...]."); see also List of senators of Saint Pierre and Miquelon
    Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 259 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 2 October and exceeds minimum length; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; the sources are either in French or paywalled so not much I can check on paraphrasing but Earwig is clear; QPQ has been carried out; I've struck ALT1, although it is supported by the source the overall length of his tenure was just shy of 22 years; on ALT0 the source and article don't say "first French senator from Saint Pierre and Miquelon" but first to represent the place in the Senate. Unlikely I know but it leaves open the possibility that someone from there was elected to the senate as a representative of somewhere else. Perhaps AL2 below works? Happy to consider alternatives. - Dumelow (talk) 17:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT2: ... that Henri Claireaux was the first representative for Saint Pierre and Miquelon elected to the French Senate?
    Thanks, I think it technically needs another reviewer to approve - Dumelow (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11 and Dumelow: I'm sorry, I find ALT2 far too person-does-their-jobby to meet WP:DYKINT. What else have you got?--Launchballer 18:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Criminals (Meghan Trainor song)

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    Moved to mainspace by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 76 past nominations.

    NØ 20:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Brick by Brick: How Lego Rewrote the Rules of Innovation

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    Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 528 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Light Weight Air Warning Radar

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    LW/AW Mark 1A
    • ... that the Australian Light Weight Air Warning Radar was designed to break down into waterproof containers that fit in the Douglas DC-2, were taken ashore from a trawler in canoes, and in one case manpacked up 200 foot cliffs? Source: Minnett and Briton both detail the waterproof aspect and DC-2, Minnett relates it being brought ashore by canoe and quotes the cliffs
    Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 201 past nominations.

    Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 4

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    Maria Muntañola Cvetković

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    Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

    ミラP@Miraclepine 19:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    History Instructing Youth

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    History Instructing Youth
    History Instructing Youth
    • ... that the 1896 History Instructing Youth (pictured) is a US one-dollar bill featuring a woman on the obverse and the reverse?
    Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 158 past nominations.

    Bruxton (talk) 15:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Richard Alan Masters

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    2020 Quarter for National Park of American Samoa
    2020 Quarter for National Park of American Samoa
    • ... that Richard Alan Masters' design for a quarter featuring a fruit bat, fueled now-debunked conspiracy theories that the US government was involved in spreading COVID-19?
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    Created by Hyungsubshim (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hyungsubshim (talk) 18:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The current hook is far above the 200-character limit and thus cannot be used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hyungsubshim: Please suggest alternative hooks that are below the 200 character limit. Z1720 (talk) 23:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book)

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    Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 50 past nominations.

    ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Fawzia Amin Sido

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    Created by Galamore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Galamore (talk) 09:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The sources used (VoA & BBC) don't even mention any involvement of Israeli forces except a spokesperson saying: "The Israeli military said Ms Sido was eventually freed during a "complex operation coordinated between Israel, the United States, and other international actors" and taken to Iraq via Israel and Jordan". … Iraqi foreign ministry official Silwan Sinjaree told Reuters that several earlier attempts to rescue her over the course of about four months failed because of the security situation in Gaza.

    So according to the sources, Israel was certainly involved and probably partly enabled her escape, but also the security situation in Gaza had actually delayed her rescue.

    That this is a remarkably heartbreaking story is not disutable, that she was rescued as a result of Israeli army actions seems pure spin based on these sources.Pincrete (talk) 14:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 5

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    Sanewashing

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    • Source: Tornoe, Rob (2024-10-01). "The 'sanewashing' phenomenon". Editor and Publisher. Retrieved 2024-10-05. So, how do you avoid sanewashing Trump or any other politician? The first thing you can do is employ a 'truth sandwich' in your coverage. Developed by author and linguist George Lakoff and promoted by New York University professor and author Jay Rosen, it basically means to surround a lie or misstatement with the truth.
    5x expanded by Soibangla (talk), Jonathan Deamer (talk), and Superb Owl (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Jonathan Deamer (talk) 08:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • 2 bits of jargon readers are unlikely to know is too many for a hook. I would try another one that focuses on sane washing specifically without introducing other terms. (t · c) buidhe 23:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT2: ... that Will Bunch, columnist at The Philadelphia Inquirer, believes sanewashing "has all but clinched Merriam-Webster's Word of the Year for 2024"? The Philadelphia Inquirer: "I think sanewashing has all but clinched Merriam-Webster’s Word of the Year for 2024 — not just for its cleverness, but because finding the right language may be having a positive impact on our politics and our future."
      • ALT3: ... that according to Urban Dictionary, the word sanewashing was coined in a Reddit forum for neoliberals in 2020? Columbia Journalism Review: "The term itself actually isn’t new, and it wasn’t born in media-criticism circles, per se; according to Urban Dictionary, it was coined in 2020 on a Reddit page for neoliberals (which Linda Kinstler wrote about recently for CJR), and meant “attempting to downplay a person or idea’s radicality to make it more palatable to the general public."
    @buidhe Thanks for the feedback! Fair point. I've added two alternatives above. I'm trying to keep it about language/journalism rather than go into an (even more) political territory for DYK purposes. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2 doesn't seem like a hook unless it happens, the etymology mentioned in ALT3 is not particularly noteworthy for 21st century neologisms. I feel like you should have some good material in the article, maybe a hook focusing on a particular alleged instance or in relation to the main political figure to which it's applied (i.e. trump) would be better. (t · c) buidhe 14:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @buidhe I hear you on "focusing on a particular alleged instance or in relation to the main political figure to which it's applied". Here are a couple of different spins on a similar idea:
        • ALT4: ... that both Tim Walz and JD Vance were accused of sanewashing in the 2024 vice presidential debate? MSNBC: On Tuesday, Vance took that same "sanewashing" approach to the debate stage in New York. When pressed by the moderators about Trump calling climate change a "hoax," for example, Vance deflected. Instead of answering yes or no, Vance tried to "interpret" for Trump. The Hill: The term 'sanewashing' is going around among liberal media critics, the idea that the media is too willing to normalize [former President] Trump and Vance's behavior," Silver said in a Substack post Wednesday. "Wasn't Walz sanewashing Vance? He said nothing about the Republican ticket's conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets, for instance.
        • ALT5: ... that Nate Silver suggested Tim Walz was sanewashing by not mentioning Donald Trump's "conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets" in the 2024 vice presidential debate? The Hill: The term 'sanewashing' is going around among liberal media critics, the idea that the media is too willing to normalize [former President] Trump and Vance's behavior," Silver said in a Substack post Wednesday. "Wasn't Walz sanewashing Vance? He said nothing about the Republican ticket's conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets, for instance.

    Neknampur Lake

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    • ... that Neknampur Lake restoration "has been recognised as a role model in the 'watershed development' category along with four other projects" in India?
    • ALT1: ... that the restoration of Neknampur Lake was recognised "as the best model of lake restoration in India"? Source: * [5] [6] [7]
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    Created by Sarvagyana guru (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Piotrus:

    I think I had reviewed three nominations (as per best of my understanding). These are

    Note to Sarvagyana guru and Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus: the QPQ reviews provided do not appear to be complete DYK reviews, covering all the basic DYK criteria such as newness, length, neutrality, free of copyvio, hook cited and interesting, and so on. In particular, Sankar Montoute and It's OK I'm OK only discuss the hook, and Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone only mentions length and "well-sourced" in its approval, which is not adequate. I have also adjusted both hooks to change the italics into quote marks; I also discovered that the article failed to properly identify the actual quotes for those hooks, which is technically a copyvio, so I have adjusted it accordingly. This meant adjusting the quotes to cover more material. (In once case, two apostrophes together were used in the article rather than the double-quote character, causing italics there rather than visible " marks at the beginning and end of the quote.) Piotrus, I think a more careful review of the quoted material is in order, given what I just found. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @BlueMoonset: I see, thank you. I confirmed before and double checked now that the quoted terms for the hook(s), i.e. 'watershed development' and 'best model' appear in sourced cited, so the article seems fine, once the QPQ reviews are done (well, a single one will suffice to pass this, but it would be good to fix the others, which @Sarvagyana guru: can then use as fuel for two more DYKs :) PS. Sarvagyana guru, please WP:PING me when you reply here to me, otherwise I may not see your message. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    References

    1. ^ "Neknampur Lake Restoration Gets NITI Aayog Recognition".
    2. ^ "Rejuvenated Neknampur lake wins Niti Aayog laurels".
    3. ^ "Neknampur lake gets Niti Aayog's recognition".
    4. ^ "Once a dumpyard, this Hyderabad lake is now a hub for eco-friendly events".
    5. ^ "Neknampur lake: Private entity's sustainable restoration earns recognition from CSE".
    6. ^ "Neknampur lake garners accolades for restoration".
    7. ^ "Restoration of Neknampur Lake receives praise".

    Jurong East MRT station

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    • ... that it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to have a recurring disco to increase its vibrancy?
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    • Comment: Add wikilinks for 'Jurong East MRT station'
    Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Imbluey2 . Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 14:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Claiming this for review and hope to get to this within the next few days. For what it's worth I like the hook and think it's interesting. I've made some copyedits to the hook such as linking and bolding. Given that the nominator is Imbluey2 and not ZKang123, no QPQ is necessary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article was promoted to GA status on time and I didn't find any close paraphrasing (the 34.6% figure Earwig gives is a false positive). No QPQ is needed for Imbluey2 as nominator (had ZKang123 done the nom, a QPQ would have been required). The hook is interesting and cited inline. My only concern is a minor one: the article/hook and the source do not fully agree. The article says that Yao proposed discos, but the newspaper source said a disco. That may need to be clarified. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The newspaper said a reoccurring disco in the station. It should be added to the hook as "it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to host a reoccurring disco party to increase its vibrancy?". Maybe modify the "reoccuring" part since it doesn't really flow well imo. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 13:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Narutolovehinata5? Can we continue with the DYK nomination? Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm still waiting for the discrepancy to be resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5 fixed the DYK hook to "a recurring disco" since the newspaper source said that it was proposed for people to host a disco. Yeo's quote of justifying his proposal implied that the disco would recurring ("maybe in the evenings", evenings in this context implies reccurance imo). Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 10:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know. The source doesn't outright say "recurring", and while one could argue that the meaning is implied, the lack of a direct support from the source probably makes that specific wording unsafe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just to follow-up, the article and hook still need to match the source before this can be approved.

    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry, I've been busy the past few days and forgot about this. Anyways, I was wondering if it's possible to get a third party to comment on this matter? It's unclear what the news article meant so I think we should get someone else's oponion.Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 15:00, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Trainsandotherthings and SounderBruce: Would it be okay if either of you take a look at this and give feedback on the hook sourcing and wording? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, thanks for the ping. Based on my interpretation of the source, the person proposing the disco wanted to hold it in the evenings (plural) which implies a recurring event. That's just my reading of the source, so I don't claim to be objectively correct. I've placed this discussion on my watchlist for a month, so I'm happy to help out further if needed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC) Note: I did not promote it to GA status, it was ZKang123. I just did some minor edits including the disco one.[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 6

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    Middle East International

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    Created by Padres Hana (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Padres Hana (talk) 15:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    ZIZ

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    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Typhoon Virginia (1957)
    • Comment: It all started last weekend when I Googled up "Caribbean broadcasting call signs" while browsing results for various regional TV stations on a whim. A GBooks result offered a tidbit on an entity called VP2LO, a shortwave outlet that in the years ahead evolved into the Kittitian national broadcaster--a topic I broke ground on back in my early days on WP. (I was lucky to save it from A7 during its December 2007 launch--barely.) Face it, WP is still in dire need of better and more extensive coverage on Caribbean media.
    Apologies if I used a thesis here, but regrettably, it's the only source mentioning this factoid--anywhere--as far as Google's aware (WP:AGF). Meanwhile, as I type, Doc Taxon at WP:RX has been taking care of the last three bits we need to get this finished.
    First of two DYK candidates of mine before Milton approaches my home area; see you in another couple of hours with the next one.
    P.S. Wonder if there are any established editors from Saint Kitts and Nevis itself? (I myself hail from Dominica.)
    P.P.S. As always, special greetings to Barbados' CaribDigita (talk · contribs) and Trinidad's Guettarda (talk · contribs)--along with SafariScribe (talk · contribs), who approved one of my recent go-rounds at AFC, The Right and the Wrong.
    5x expanded by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 23:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 7

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    The Children's Book of Virtues

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    Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

    Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    I was wondering why I got pinged to a random DYK, now I know! :D SirMemeGod  12:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sir MemeGod: Sorry, I mixed up my reviewers days ago; see above for correction. (You actually approved Children's, while Bkissin approved Compass.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Texas and Pacific 610

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    • Source: Heinecke, Harry (January 28, 1951). "City, Show and T&P Officials Help 'Bed Down' Old 610 in Its Last Stall". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Vol. 17, no. 362. p. 1 – via Newspapers.com.
    • "T&P Steam Locomotive, Gift to City Will Keep Iron Horse Memories Alive". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Vol. 17, no. 353. January 19, 1951. p. 1 – via Newspapers.com.
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    • Comment: I honestly only want to know what earning the DYK nomination is like, after successfully nominating two pages the Good Article grade. I just wasn’t sure which fact is the most interesting in No. 610’s page.
    Improved to Good Article status by Someone who likes train writing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Someone who likes train writing (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Comment I think this would be a better hook:
    I'm not certain which sources in the article support this, but I'm sure you can provide them, @Someone who likes train writing:. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment That actually sounds better. Thank you, @Trainsandotherthings:. Here are a couple of sources that back this fact up.:
    • Marrs, Jim (February 25, 1976). "Hundreds Due to Greet Engine 610". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. p. 4 – via Newspapers.com.
    • Boyd, Jim (February 1978). "Tales of a lanky Texan". Railfan. Vol. 2, no. 2. Carstens Publications. p. 31.
    Someone who likes train writing (talk) 21:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    LaTasha Barnes

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    • ... that one of the most popular places to learn swing dance and lindy hop is in Malmo, Sweden?
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    Created by Wroliver (talk).


    Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Wroliver (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi Wroliver, the article says onyl that the "Herrang Dance Camp is one of the most popular places in Europe to learn swing dance and Lindy Hop" and is sourced to its Wikipedia article. This wouldn't be acceptable and would need an independent source. Additionally it doesn't seem to have much to do with the subject of the article LaTasha Barnes, a hook focussing on her would be preferred. Finally, the article has been tagged for promotional tone and unclear citations that needs resolving before it can be posted - Dumelow (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Wroliver, just a reminder on this. If I don't hear back in the next couple of days I will close the nomination as unsuccessful. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd propose ALT1: ...that jazz dancer LaTasha Barnes began her career as a sergeant in the U.S. Army? Sdkb talk 05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Marking for closure as article continues to have significant citation issues. It has also been tagged for promotional content - Dumelow (talk) 08:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wroliver has requested to keep this open for another day or so. There is significant work to be done here to address the tags on the article though - Dumelow (talk) 22:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Alt DYK proposed for LaTasha Barnes article: DYK that dancer/choreographer LaTasha Barnes began her career as a sergeant in the U.S. Army? [1]

    Note: I have made some revisions to the article to address concerns mentioned, including removing the Wikipedia reference and replacing it with a better reference. I've attempted to keep a neutral tone throughout, and changed some of the language for that purpose. Please let me know if any other changes are needed.Wroliver (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTasha_Barnes[reply]

    Hi Wroliver, thanks for getting back to me. I have been through "Early years" and "Performing career" and noted a few bits that are not supported by the sources cited. Can you look to resolve these and any other similar parts of the article before I continue the review - Dumelow (talk) 10:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've also tagged a sentence copied verbatim from the cited source. Please address this and also any other similar instances, we cannot violate copyright in this way - Dumelow (talk) 10:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Wroliver, further to your message on my talk page I have looked at the next section "Cultural Ambassador and Educator". Again it is full of statements not supported by the source cited or where better sources are needed. Can you please address these and look at the remaining two sections to check for similar issues. It is very frustrating to have to go through this article line by line. It is basic policy here that anything stated in the article should be supported by the source - Dumelow (talk) 08:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 8

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    Diane Leather

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    • ... that Diane Leather was the first woman to run a mile in under five minutes?
    5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Oldelpaso (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Can we do better than this? If any woman has run the mile in under 5 minutes, someone had to be the first, and the hook doesn't provide any more information. (t · c) buidhe 23:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you saying a world record isn't notable and/or hook worthy? Or are you asking for more context such as a link to Mile run world record progression? I was trying to keep the hook as succinct as possible. Oldelpaso (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Another issue is that the hook proposed is a "first" hook, which per WP:DYKHOOK usually needs exceptionally strong sourcing given the exceptional claim involved (how are we sure that no other woman before Leather ran a mile in under five minutes?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article includes cites describing her in those terms from the World Athletics website (the organisation that ratifies world records in the discipline, formerly known as the IAAF)[7], the BBC [8], Guardian [9], NYT [10], Washington Post [11] and others. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I could work in some reference to Roger Bannister in the hook, as his far more well-known first sub-four minute mile occurred the same month and thus they are frequently compared, but I'd rather not. It was how overlooked Leather's achievement was compared to the male equivalent that prompted me to expand the article in the first place! Oldelpaso (talk) 21:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Amaury du Closel

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    • ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées to revive the music of composers whose voices were silenced by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century? Source: [12]
    Created by Jmanlucas (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2121 past nominations.

    Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been fully completed. As the article was only featured on RD rather than as a blurb, it is still eligible for DYK. The image is properly licensed and is suitable at its resolution.
    The hook doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE at this time as the footnote supporting it comes later in the paragraph than it should. The hook is referenced to a French source so AGF, although a Google Translate translation seems to verify the information. Apart from the sourcing, my only real concern (since the hook is interesting) is the language in both the hook and the article might not meet the guidelines on words to avoid in articles, specifically WP:PEACOCK since they're arguably more flowery. Rather than using "silenced", or the lead section's current wording, perhaps it may be toned down a little more to suit the guidelines. The nomination will be approved once those wording and citing issues are addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for reviewing. I duplicated the references to a sentence earlier. I tried to translate the name of the organization and his book: "Erstickte Stimmen", which was originally in German. I understand that "erstickt" means "suffocated" and believe that "silenced" is almost too harmless compared to that. Other options from my translator are "suppressed" and "stifled", the latter being a word I never heard before and therefore hesitate to use. If you say it is better, I'll believe you. Or what would you suggest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The current hook is also really long, at 183 characters, so it might be a good idea to shorten it a bit. If that can be done while making the hook/article meet WTW, that might help. Perhaps Launchballer or CurryTime7-24 can propose such revisions to ALT0? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Knowing Gerda's strong feelings on DYK hooks, I'm not sure I can be of help here. However, I do agree that this hook is a mouthful and would benefit from a trim. Also, the phrase "whose voices were silenced" ought to be modified per WP:SUBJECTIVE, MOS:EUPHEMISM, and possibly MOS:CLICHE. It would be clearer to say "to revive the music of composers suppressed by totalitarian regimes". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    CurryTime7-24, did you read (just above) that I tried to translate the name of the organization in a more elegant way than putting it in brackets? I believe that you could help with that. Voix Etouffées, Erstickte Stimmen, what is it best in English? It's their program. I would seriously like to find out even if we don't use it for the hook. - In an earlier hook, we said "music banned by the Nazis" which is of course shorter but too narrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It seems to be officially known by its French name, so I'd stick with that. Sometimes organizations are internationally known by their native name (e.g. Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde). For what it's worth, "etouffée" translates to "stifled", "smothered", or "muffled". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am sorry that I was not precise: of course I didn't want to replace the French name of the organization, but translate it for those who don't know French. All three words are new to me, so I can't tell what would be best. Or give up the idea? Then what would you suggest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Trying without "voices":
    ALT0a ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées to revive music that was suppressed by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century?
    Trying simple translation:
    ALT0b ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées (Stifled voices) to revive music suppressed by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Didn't grasp what you were telling me at first; I'm sorry for my pedantic reply. :) Although these are not literal translations, I think "suppressed", "persecuted", or even "oppressed" better convey the intended spirit of "etouffée" in the context of the organization name. Both ALT0a and ALT0b seem great to me! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I like ALT0a. As long as the wordings in the article are also fixed we should be good to go with it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In the hook, we have no space. In the article, I replaced a duplicate "persecuted" in the lead by "suppressed", but in the prose used "voices stifled" (in quotation marks) to make the connection to the name. It appeared there only for the Nazi regime. If you have better ideas please try. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CurryTime7-24: Are you okay with the way "voices stifled" is used in the article, or do you think it should be rephrased? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 9

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    Musa al-Gharbi

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    • ... that Musa al-Gharbi has argued since the 2016 election of Donald Trump that media outlets including The New York Times opinion page and MSNBC have failed to understand his supporters?
    • Source: "For the past four years, Al-Gharbi tried to tell anyone who would listen that Trump supporters did not in fact fit the sociological profile offered on The New York Times opinion page or on MSNBC’s nightly pearl-clutching roundtables." Tablet
    Created by Thriley (talk) and Oganguly (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 148 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 07:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Church of the East in Sichuan

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    • ... that the ruins of the East Syriac church Pearl Temple are the subject of Du Fu's poem "The Stone Shoots: A Ballad"?
    • Source: Duan, Yuming (1993). "云南景教考" [A Study on East Syriac Christianity in Yunnan]. Journal of Yunnan Nationalities University (Social Sciences Edition). p. 59; Enoki, Kazuo (1947). "成都の石筍と大秦寺" [Bamboo-shoot-like Menhir in Chêng-tu and Nestorian Church]. Journal of the Research Department of the Toyo Bunko. pp. 108–109.
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    Created by Uriel1022 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Uriel1022 (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    MrBeast Lab

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    • ... that the MrBeast Lab toy line first debuted in a pop-up store in the shape of an overturned tanker truck carrying toxic waste?
    Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    Johnson524 17:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Manga and anime fandom in Poland

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    Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 529 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites (song)

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    Improved to Good Article status by Skyshifter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

    Skyshiftertalk 14:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Skyshifter: The rules recently changed per a WT:DYK discussion as part of an anti-backlog campaign and to prevent QPQ-less nominations from languishing without a QPQ indefinitely. Now, a QPQ must be given when or shortly after the nomination is created, and a nomination without a QPQ may be closed without warning if none is provided immediately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: done! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I want to ask that if/when this hook is approved, it be set for October 31 to go with the Halloween set (Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Halloween set). Di (they-them) (talk) 03:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Di (they-them): I support this! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 10

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    Florentina Holzinger

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    • ... that Florentina Holzinger's work includes nude all-female casts, live sex, self-mutilation, dildo use, defecation, coprophagia and live piercing, leading to severe nausea for some theatregoers?
    • Source: "Eighteen theatregoers at Stuttgart’s state opera required medical treatment for severe nausea over the weekend after watching a performance that included live piercing, unsimulated sexual intercourse and copious amounts of fake and real blood." The Guardian etc
    Created by Edwardx (talk) and Deborahjay (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 336 past nominations.

    Edwardx (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    ALT1: ... that over the opening weekend of Florentina Holzinger's first opera, eighteen audience members required medical treatment for severe nausea?--Launchballer 18:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Santa Maria Maggiore, Venice

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    Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

    Bogger (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Last Call BBS

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    Created by CanonNi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 11

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    Salmon n' Bannock

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    • ... that Salmon n' Bannock's notoriety led to the owner reconnecting with her long-lost family?
    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anatolii Brezvin

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    Created by Flibirigit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 156 past nominations.

    Flibirigit (talk) 21:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Reviewing...:
    • New enough: yes.
    • Long enough: more than long enough (very nice!).
    • Adequate sourcing: given that most of the sources are in Ukrainian or Russian, I had to use translation tools to verify that the basic facts of the biography are well-sourced.
    • Neutral: yes.
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Not sure if closely translating is considered plagiarism or paraphrasing? I'm inclined to accept this as is.
    • Hooks cited: yes.
    • Hooks interesting: maybe? The original hook could be interesting enough. The two alts don't seem particularly interesting to me compared to the original. But I think the original could be improved by mentioning that the target 60 wasn't reached but I'm unsure if this can fit within the 200 character limit and/or whether this violates WP:DYKHOOKBLP. Basically I'm kinda okay with the original hook but would like to workshop this more. Maybe something like: ... that Anatolii Brezvin began an ambitious program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years but only managed to complete 12 and refurbish two? (148 characters).
    • QPQ: Both done.
    Overall, the article is a very nice addition to Wikipedia, but maybe we could have a better hook? —seav (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Fengshan (general)

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    Fengshan
    Fengshan
    • Source: Zhu Jiang (朱江) (9 October 2010). "Bombs Fall" 炸弹落入 (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. Retrieved 11 October 2024. "后来一段时期，因“炸弹”与“炸蛋”同音，广州不少餐馆曾把这道菜叫做“凤山入城”。(Later, because "bomb" and "fried egg" have the same pronunciation, many restaurants in Guangzhou called this dish "Fengshan Enters the City)."
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 687 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Aaj Ki Raat (2024 song)

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    Created by KunalAggarwal95 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 16:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 12

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    Hasan Ali (activist)

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    Created by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 230 past nominations.

    Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Sources are mostly in Indonesian so assuming good faith for them, although the PhD dissertation is in English and the stuff it verifies is verified. I will leave the choice in hook to the promoter. There are just two issues, one for each hook. For ALT0, I'm not actually sure if a PhD dissertation is a suitable source in this case, although it's not giving an exceptional claim perhaps it might be usable. For ALT1, the sentence saying that it was finished in 2002 (and thus the dictionary took 24 years to finish) lacks a footnote, so right now it doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Ragnvi Torslow

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    • ... that Ragnvi Torslow, a five-time Swedish figure skating champion in 1920s went on to be one of the founders of the Bilkåren voluntary defence corps, training 3000 women to drive during World War II?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 18:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Elin Falk

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    Elin Falk
    Elin Falk
    • ... that Elin Falk revolutionised the teaching of gymnastics in Swedish schools in the early twentieth century?
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    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Gutidara

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    Created by FaysaLBinDaruL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Chen Qiyou

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    • ... that Chen Qiyou, a would-be assassin, later became part of the Chinese Committee for World Peace?
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 688 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thokchom Chandrasekhar Singh

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    • Source: Who's who in the Manipur Legislative Assembly. Manipur Legislative Assembly Secretariat., 1964. p. 10
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 405 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 15:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1957 Manipur Territorial Council election

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    • Source: V. Venkata Rao. A Century of Government and Politics in North East India, 1874-1980: Manipur. S. Chand, 1991. pp. 92-93, 194
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 404 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anastasia Somoza

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    Created by Innisfree987 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

    Innisfree987 (talk) 09:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Nazi crimes against children

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    Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 530 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 15

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    Common fixed point problem

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    • Source: "The purpose of this paper is to answer Dyer's question in the negative by the construction of a pair of commuting functions which have no fixed point in common. [...] This paper is a condensation of the author's 1967 doctoral dissertation", from a paper by Boyce . "It has been conjectured that any two continuous functions f, g mapping the closed unit interval into itself which commute under composition [...] must have a common fixed point [...] Chapter 2 defines a pair of functions which show that the conjecture is false", from Huneke's 1967 PhD dissertation.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: If the reviewer doesn't have ProQuest access, I can provide a copy of Huneke's dissertation over email.
    Created by WillisBlackburn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    jlwoodwa (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Song Zhenzhong, Song Qiyun, Xu Linxia

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    Song Zhenzhong
    Song Zhenzhong
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 3. Nominator has 694 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bliss (photograph)

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    Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

    Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bliss is still copyrighted right? DYK doesn't allow fair-use pictures to be used on the Main Page unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, it is copyrighted and owned by Microsoft. It would be cool to include the photograph but I'm unsure if DYK rules allow this. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    From WP:DYKIMG: The media must be freely licensed—fair-use images are not permitted on the Main Page. So the answer is no. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd rather prefer other proposed blurbs. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Yen and Ai-Lee

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    • ... that the director of Yen and Ai-Lee created the film to collaborate with his actress wife?
    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1. ^ Siebert, Brian. "From the Lindy Hop to Hip-Hop in One Improvising Body". New York Times. New York Times. Retrieved 2022-11-16.
    2. ^ Chou, Inna (4 October 2024). "《小雁與吳愛麗》入圍釜山影展、金馬8項大獎！劇情、上映日期、預告⋯電影資訊一覽". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 15 October 2024. 導演林書宇也進一步透露拍攝《小雁與吳愛麗》的靈感，就是來自於想要和妻子夏于喬一起拍一部電影 [Director Tom Lin Shu-yu further revealed that the inspiration for Yen and Ai-Lee came from his desire to make a film with his wife, Kimi Hsia.]
    3. ^ Liao, Yu-yang; Lai, Sunny (11 October 2024). "Taiwanese film wins top prize at Busan Int'l Film Festival". Focus Taiwan. Retrieved 15 October 2024. Taiwanese film "Yen and Ai-Lee" (小雁與吳愛麗) won the Busan International Film Festival's (BIFF) top prize "Kim Jiseok Award" on Friday, marking the first Taiwanese film to receive the award.
    4. ^ 許瑞麟 (1 October 2024). "林書宇專訪／《小雁與吳愛麗》寫過最沒把握的劇本 接受自己的「工整」：這是我的天性". Yahoo! News (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024. 「一開始在寫劇本的時候，我只是想要看到一個更生人的夏于喬，同時我也想要看到另外一個在上表演課的夏于喬，但這兩個角色是怎麼一回事，其實寫的時候我不知道。」沒想到寫著寫著，便將片中「兩個夏于喬」連結在一起，為觀眾增添了一點驚喜。 ["At the beginning of writing the script, I just wanted to see a rehabilitated Kimi Hsia, while also wanting to see another Hsia taking acting classes, but I did not know how these two characters would connect." Unexpectedly, as he continued writing, he merged the "two Kimi Hsias" into one, adding a surprise for the audience.]
    5. ^ Howell, June (3 October 2024). "夏于喬、林書宇首度合作《小雁與吳愛麗》成金馬獎贏家，亮眼成績背後藏深刻夫妻相處之道：「下班就不要談公事！」". Tatler Asia (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024. 選擇黑白的視覺呈現方式，並非一個單純的美學決定，而是一種深刻情感的凝聚與放大。林書宇指出，這部電影並不是史詩般的宏大敘事，而是細膩捕捉母女之間複雜的情感流動。他認為，黑白影像能夠去除色彩的干擾，使觀眾更專注於演員的表演。 [The choice of a black-and-white visual style is not merely an aesthetic decision but a way to condense and amplify deep emotions. Tom Lin Shu-yu pointed out that this film is not an epic narrative, but rather delicately captures the complex emotional flow between a mother and daughter. He believes that black-and-white imagery removes the distraction of color, allowing the audience to focus more on the actors' performances.]
    6. ^ Scott, Matthew (10 October 2024). "It's all there in black and white in 'Yen and Ai-Lee'". Taiwan News. Retrieved 14 October 2024. First, the film deals with domestic violence, and Lin chose to shoot in black and white.
    7. ^ "平衡直覺與現實，在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024. 他親自開車到處尋找鄉鎮，一個個拍照、調成黑白看感覺，因景觀樣貌而非文化特性挑中了美濃。 [He (Tom Lin Shu-yu) personally drove around searching for towns, taking photos and adjusting them to black-and-white to gauge the feel, ultimately choosing Meinong based on its landscape rather than its cultural characteristics.]
    8. ^ "平衡直覺與現實，在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024. 本片令人印象深刻的長鏡頭開場，便是情急之下生出的靈光──原本林書宇安排很多分鏡，小雁會騎腳踏車經過夜市，鏡頭先帶到眾人看她的反應，才轉而見到小雁本人。景都勘好了，卻無奈碰上無法控制的雨，如果將就在有雨的狀況下拍了一顆，下一顆鏡頭便要考慮連戲問題，但又沒預算發水車⋯⋯。為此，林書宇連夜苦思後決定：改用一顆長鏡頭搞定，並利用多 roll 的空景時間拿來放片頭 credit。 [The film’s iconic long take opening scene was born from a moment of urgency—originally, Tom Lin Shu-yu had planned many shots where Yen would ride her bicycle through the night market, first showing the reactions of those watching before revealing Yen herself. The locations were scouted, but unfortunately, they faced uncontrollable rain; if they filmed in the rain for one shot, they would have to consider continuity for the next shot, but there was no budget for a water truck... As a result, after a night of contemplation, Lin Shu-yu decided to use a single long take to accomplish this and utilized the extra roll of empty scenery to display the opening credits.]

    Ratnākara

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    • ... that Ratnākara may have invented the poetic device of vakrokti ("verbal distortion")?
    • ALT1: ... that Ratnākara's Vakroktipañcāśikā contains fifty verses of dialogue between Śiva and Pārvatī, employing the poetic device of vakrokti ("verbal distortion")?
    • ALT2: ... that a now-lost chronicle of the kings of Kashmir, covering two "gaps" in Kalhaṇa's Rājataraṅginī, is attributed to Ratnākara?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by TryKid (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    TryKid [dubious – discuss] 07:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    It might be better to just focus on ALT2 as ALT1 still seems to rely on specialist knowledge and not something that's self-evident from a reading. ALT2 is still slightly specialist but it's at least more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:02, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 Batman by-election

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    Improved to Good Article status by GraziePrego (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    GraziePrego (talk) 03:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    TarnishedPathtalk 06:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 16

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    Frank A. Kimball

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    Portrait of Frank Augustus Kimball.
    Portrait of Frank Augustus Kimball.
    Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk), SDPLPauline (talk), Dasee8y (talk), and Thinkstationx220 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

    RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi @RightCowLeftCoast:! This article is new enough, long enough, no copyvio, certainly well-sourced. I think the first hook is the most interesting. QPQ done.
    This is nice work, but I have some problems to address: I don't understand the phrase "build a transcontinental railroad Pacific terminus" on the page, could you clear it up? Do we know why Kimball wrote a family history of Estudillo? Was he a relation? Otherwise that sentence is a bit out of left field. The information in the lede about him donating land for cemeteries, schools, and churches is not in the body, could you incorporate it (and maybe elaborate on it)? The current DYK image is not sufficiently clear at this resolution (but this image, which is already used on the page, probably would be). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, the first hook probably has the wrong citation. I can't see anything about thousands of acres. Maybe a citation to this would be more appropriate? Tenpop421 (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Lyncoya Jackson

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    • ... that the adoption of a Muscogee orphan Lyncoya by Andrew Jackson was framed by Jackson's political allies as a defense against charges that Jackson was a bloodthirsty Indian killer?
    5x expanded by Jengod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 199 past nominations.

    KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Susanne Craig

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    • ... that Susanne Craig was born in the same hospital as Ted Cruz a year apart?
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    Improved to Good Article status by Lisha2037 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Lisha2037 (talk) 00:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - Hook doesn't appear to be supported by article. Cannot find mention of Cruz in edit history.
    • Interesting: No - Is there more context that can be given that signals why this is interesting, beyond coincidence? It looks like there might be at this article, but it's paywalled.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Updated - see ALT1 and ALT2 below. Great work getting this article to GA status! It looks like this hook isn't in the article - please take a look at WP:DYKHOOK. Even if it were, I'm not sure it's the most interesting hook there could be for this article unless there's missing detail from the source. Please take a look and see if this one can be improved, or if there's another you'd suggest. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Jonathan Deamer it’s my first time nominating for DYK so I’m still getting used to what that entails regarding style and interest. If you would be done to suggest something? I think since elections are coming up maybe something related to that and the Trump a tax story? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 15:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How about something on the fact they she received the first batch of tax return documents anonymously in her mailbox? The NPR source has some additional colour on this.
    The early career section could be expanded with some of the details on her time at the Guantlet from this piece. Pullitzer prize winner only started journalism to get free dinner theatre tickets could be a fun hook if you can find the right wording :) Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jonathan Deamer I think the tax idea is better for the current events. Did you know the journalist who won the Pulitzer for breaking the story on Trump’s taxes received them anonymously in her mailbox? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lisha2037 Thanks! I've taken the liberty of building on this with a couple of alternatives:

    • ALT1: ... that Susanne Craig won a Pulitzer Prize for her reporting on Donald Trump's taxes after receiving his tax records anonymously in her mailbox? NBC, 2016: ""I opened it up and there was three pages of Donald Trump's tax returns there and I just went 'No way!'" she said in an interview with NBC News on Monday. Craig said she was instantly intrigued but skeptical about the authenticity of the documents she’d received anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."
    • ALT2 (in case direct mentions of politicians is not desirable in DYK for the next few weeks): ... that Pulitzer Prize winner Susanne Craig advises her fellow reporters to check their snail mail? New York Times: "The whole experience has left me eager to share a bit of advice with my fellow reporters: Check your mailboxes. Especially nowadays, when people are worried that anything sent by email will leave forensic fingerprints, “snail mail” is a great way to communicate with us anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."

    I think either ALT1 or ALT2 is good to go, but to avoid approving "my own" hook, and given this is potentially a contentious subject right now, could another reviewer please take a look just at these two hooks? Thanks in advance! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Jonathan Deamer / I like the first hook better. Let me know what I need to do next! :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisha2037 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lisha2037 No further action needed from you! When another editor checks these hooks we're good to go. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lisha2037 and Jonathan Deamer: ALT1 is more interesting than ALT2, though could do with being truncated at 'taxes' per WP:DYKTRIM. Article says Craig won the prize, the article says she shared it with two others. Did they each get one?--Launchballer 18:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Launchballer The Pulitzer Prize is given digitally to all of them with all of them receiving the prize and the $15,000 award. :::::@Lisha2037:

    Liliget Feast House

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    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 17

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    Port Mercer, New Jersey

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    5x expanded by Lbal (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Lbal (talk) 22:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anne Marie Armstrong

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    • ALT2: ... that in high school, professional basketball player Anne Marie Armstrong won three state titles in volleyball, three state titles in basketball, and four state titles in track and field?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Nice work on the article about Armstrong, WikiOriginal-9! It is sufficiently long enough and was created on the same day as this nomination was, so that is not an issue. Same goes for copyright violations as well. The one concern I have is that I don't find the hook interesting – if I were to read this on the Main Page at the moment, I'd think to myself, "who is Armstrong and in which area or sport did she win 10 state titles in?". Thus, I think it needs a little more work in terms of context and clarity as noted above. The source for it is fine, though. Thanks! ~ Tails Wx 20:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @WikiOriginal-9: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Added ALT2. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 18

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    White Party (Sean Combs)

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    Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 122 past nominations.

    No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Griffin–Spalding County Airport

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    • Source: Despite the relatively short length of its then 3,100-long runway, Griffin's airport hosted various large piston aircraft including the Douglas DC-3 and the Aviation Traders Carvair, a cargo conversion of the DC-4 from the 1970s until the 1990s.
    Created by Mccunicano (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

    ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Rada Dyson-Hudson

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    Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 60 past nominations.

    ミラP@Miraclepine 21:28, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kenneth Creer

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    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Interesting fact snippet on a page I just made.
    Created by Helge Kragh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Spiralwidget (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Kragh, Helge (29 November 2019). "Varying Constants of Nature: Fragments of a History". Physics in Perspective. 21: 257–273.

    Luo Shiwen

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    Luo Shiwen
    Luo Shiwen
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 691 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:06, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - Much of the article is cited to sources like "Devoting One's Efforts to the Party and the People is the Least of One's Worries——Deeds of Martyr Luo Shiwen", which doesn't speak well to their reliability. There is no consensus that Chinese government published sources are reliable for heroic deeds of party members (see, eg, WP:XINHUA).
    • Neutral: No - Unclear, see above
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - ? Unable to evaluate translation copyvio from Chinese language sources

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - Hook could use improvement. Such underground groups developed in so many locations that political prisoners are jailed together

    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: (t · c) buidhe 04:59, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hi Buidhe. Thank you for taking a look at this article, though I note that you are supposed to notify the article's creator if you find issues.
    Referring to WP:XINHUA, which you mentioned in your review, the quorum mentioned there reads "Caution should be exercised in using this source, extremely so in case of extraordinary claims on controversial subjects or biographies of living people. When in doubt, try to find better sources instead; use inline attribution if you must use Xinhua." Little mentioned in the Luo Xinhua article crosses the bar of "extraordinary claims", and what does cross that bar is specifically attributed to the source (with an indication that it is state-owned). He lived, he did something, he was detained, he was executed. Where these government sources have been used, I have been careful not to use their description of persons whom the CCP has no reason to like (for example, the conflict with Zhang Guotao is cited to Howard rather than the decidedly less neutral CCP sources, and discussion of Xifeng is cited predominantly to a Harvard University Press book). Likewise, I have deliberately excluded politically charged claims such as Luo's father being bankrupted by the high ROC taxes.
    As per WP:PARTISAN, "reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective." WP:CONTEXTMATTERS clarifies that "Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made in the Wikipedia article and is an appropriate source for that content." In this case, the sources are used specifically for basic statements of biography. Where statements were extraordinary, such as Mao and Zhou specifically asking for Luo's release, it has been attributed to the source with an indication of the source's potential bias.
    As for the hook, I am deliberately avoiding claims that are sourced exclusively to state-media. How do you feel about:
    ALT1 ... that Luo Shiwen (pictured) led a secret cell of the Chinese Communist Party that negotiated better conditions for inmates at their concentration camp?
    That ALT is supported entirely by Mühlhahn. Regards,  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Xinhua is, according to consensus, generally reliable for factual reporting except in areas where the government of China may have a reason to use it for propaganda, but this topic is exactly one where the Chinese government would have an interest in distorting its own history in order to make the CCP look better. Perhaps other reviewers would have a different opinion, but I don't think that Chinese government published sources should be cited so heavily. (In case you are looking for additional sources, this one is accessible via TWL and seems to mention the article subject). (t · c) buidhe 00:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think I have Wakeman sitting around somewhere. I'll cite that for a few points, and I can cite some more to the pithy provided by Howard. That being said, a blanket prohibition against mainland Chinese sources (we've been talking about Xinhua, but Sichuan Annals are cited more prevalently, and both the original books and the web edition have the same government ties) for a figure of little interest to KMT historians does seem counter-productive. It may be best to have a third opinion. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Lizzie Esau

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    Created by Launchballer (talk) and Georgeykiwi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 254 past nominations.

    Launchballer 09:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 19

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    Michel Klein (veterinarian)

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    Michel Klein in 1996
    Michel Klein in 1996
    • ... that in the 1950s, Michel Klein (pictured) opened one of the first veterinary practices in Paris?
    • Source: "Michel Klein, born in 1921 in Romania, studied at the veterinary school in Toulouse, a city where he joined the resistance before fleeing to Spain. Back after the war, he was one of the first to open a veterinary office in Paris in the 1950s."
    Le Parisien
    Created by Thriley (talk) and ForsythiaJo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 150 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Izvestiya Soveta rabochikh i soldatskikh deputatov goroda Askhabada

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    • Source: А. А Росляков. Большевики Туркменистана в борьбе за власть Советов. Туркменское государственное изд-во, 1961. p. 328
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 406 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 17:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam

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    Created by Zanahary (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm not sure how this hook squares up against the rules to avoid hooks solely based on the content of works, but regardless of that, I am not sure how it's interesting or relevant that, basically, the filmmaker changed his mind about something... (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • That rule is: If the subject of the hook is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact. This is a real-world fact about a nonfiction work. As for the fact, I think it's definitely unusual and remarkable for a filmmaker to make a film criticizing his own work. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 08:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: Yes
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - Earwig says that phrases like "advent of the dam" and "through the lens of salvage ethnography" and "with an eighteenth-century BCE limestone statue of the goddess Ishtar excavated from the" are identical to what's in the abstract of ref 2, so they could be changed to avoid close paraphrasing unless it can't be avoided. "Naive early enthusiasm" is similar to "earlier naive enthusiasm" in ref 4, so "Naive early" or just "early" could be changed to "initial" if possible. Otherwise the whole thing's good.
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Nominated on creation day and sized at 2360 B. Can't access refs 2 and 3 to verify anything so will AGF. @Zanahary: I have to agree with you this hook is interesting based on your explanation, but fix the paraphrasing issue and you're good to go. Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam, which is linked in the hook, is a stub sized at 233 B, so if you want to expand it and make it a second bold, feel free to do so and ping me if you're done; I can even hold the nom for you for the time being. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:01, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the review Miraclepine! I’ll fix the paraphrasing. I can also try to expand A Flood in Ba’ath Country. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Zanahary: I've found the fix satisfactory. I'll approve Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam, but ping me once A Flood in Baath Country is sufficiently expanded. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 20

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    Mwene Muji

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    • ... that Mwene Muji was a polity in the Congo Basin which declined in the late 19th century, and when the Belgians collected traditions in 1926, grand claims of its once imperial status were dismissed?
    • ALT1 ... that Mwene Muji was a polity in the Congo Basin, and when the Belgians collected traditions in 1926, grand claims of its once imperial status were dismissed?
    • ALT2 ... that the grand claims from the ruler of Mwene Muji of them once having imperial status were dismissed by Belgian colonial authorities?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Kowal2701 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Kowal2701 (talk) 19:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Kowal2701: I've also checked the article and right now it's less than 1500 characters long. DYK requires a minimum of 1500 characters of prose to be accepted. If you can expand the article further so that it meets the guidelines then less us know, but if that is not feasible then unfortunately the nomination will have to be rejected. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @User:Narutolovehinata5 the hook is 197 words long, and it gives context the fact which is that their grand claims were dismissed. I wouldn't say it summarises the article, just the last few sentences. I can expand it further, I think at the moment it's at 1200 words. Are you sure the hook isn't okay?

    Yes, the hook is far too long for DYK, even if it is slightly under the character limit. Perhaps another editor like Launchballer can give some advice on what makes a good hook, especially one that isn't too long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @User:Narutolovehinata5 but surely if it's under the character limit then the length is okay?
    I’ve added alts, I think I know what you were getting at, that the initial hook had too much information in it and wouldn’t entice the reader to click on the article. I think ALT2 is okay? Kowal2701 (talk) 13:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, ALT2 would work. Since the original issues about length and hooks are now addressed this is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Harvey Tuckett

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    • ... that cavalry officer Harvey Tuckett retired from the British Army to become an actor, but was shot in a duel by his former commanding officer?
    • Source: Siddons, J. H. "Thespic Reminiscences". Demorest's Illustrated Monthly. Vol. 15, no. 1. p. 143. [19]
    Created by AntientNestor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    AntientNestor (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Głos Kolejarzy Ewakuowanych — Golos Evakuirovannykh Zheleznodorozhnikov

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    • Source: Ludwik Bazylow, Jan Sobczak. Encyklopedia Rewolucji Październikowej. Wiedza Powszechna, 1987. p. 118
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 408 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 12:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Victoria Espinosa

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    Victoria Espinosa
    Victoria Espinosa
    Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 109 past nominations.

    Lajmmoore (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - I think ALT0 could be rewritten, as currently the focus isn't on the subject. Something like "... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) directed the first performance of The Public, almost 50 years after it was written?" would be better.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Happy to pass this after the prose issues in the lead are fixed and ALT0 is rewritten to focus on the subject. Ping me when these are addressed. Grnrchst (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks very much Grnrchst, I've fixed the lead, and another ALT is below:
    ALT3 ... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) directed the first performance of The Public by Lorca, almost 50 years after it was written? Source: "One of her career highlights was directing the 1978 world premiere of the play “El público” (“The Audience”) by Federico García Lorca, a work that could not be released when it was written around 1930 because it frankly addressed homosexual issues." https://globalvoices.org/2019/07/12/victoria-espinosa-farewell-to-a-tireless-activist-for-puerto-rican-theater/
    Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 10:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 21

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    Lova Rajaona

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    • ... that, after living in Norway for almost twenty years, Lova Rajaona returned to her hometown of Antanifotsy in Madagascar to run for mayor?
    Created by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

    Yue🌙 19:08, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 22

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    Lou Rash

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    • ... that in his first year in the NFL, Lou Rash was told he was released and began flying back home, but was told upon landing that the release was a mistake and he was to return?
    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 266 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Castlereagh–Canning duel

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    Improved to Good Article status by Michael G. Lind (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Michael G. Lind (talk) 22:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Al LeBoeuf

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    Created by Muboshgu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 537 past nominations.

    – Muboshgu (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Revant Himatsingka

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    • Comment: I think this is quite an interesting feat on the part of the influencer that a viral video was able to get Cadbury to reduce added sugar in Bournvita (marketed as children's health drink in India) by almost 15%, even as they sent legal notices and filed lawsuits against him. Also, I am new to DYK, and not sure if the hook could be made better than this. Thanks!
    Moved to mainspace by CX Zoom (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 20:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bern Shanks

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    Created by Chetsford (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 152 past nominations.

    Chetsford (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Aaron Kennedy

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    Created by B3251 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    B3251(talk) 21:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: Done. B3251(talk) 03:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    National Gingerbread House Competition

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    2008 competition entries
    2008 competition entries
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    Created by Hkeely (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hkeely (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thanks Hkeely. The length is now fine, article was created on time (22 October), sources used look to be reliable for the content and I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing, image is good (I trimmed the caption quite a bit). A couple of questions on sourcing:
    • I couldn't see in the Fox Carolina source where it said this was the only time the event had been cancelled?
    • Can you add a citation in the article for the last sentence of the first paragraph about the TV channels it has been broadcast on?
    Apart from that I think this is good to go - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Dumelow. Thank you for checking this and trimming the caption. I've added a citation for the TV channel coverage. The cancelation information is because the contest started in 1992 and this would have been the 32nd annual event. Since there were 31 events prior, that adds up mathematically. I did include new information about the public display portion being canceled during the Covid pandemic in 2020, though judging did continue that year. - Hkeely (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Hkeely, if the first event was held in 1992 and it was held every year then 2024 would have been the 33rd event. There are 32 years between the first and last event but 33 events (see fencepost error) - Dumelow (talk) 08:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Robot Alley

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    Robot Alley and its creator
    Robot Alley and its creator
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    • Comment: Awaiting VRT clarification on the photo, shouldn't post until that's complete.
    Moved to mainspace by Dmartin969 (talk) and Another Believer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    –DMartin 15:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Henry Parnell, 5th Baron Congleton

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    War grave of Henry Parnell
    War grave of Henry Parnell
    Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    Moondragon21 (talk) 12:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 23

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    Bob Hobman

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    • ... that in 1984, Bob Hobman and a group began a journey to sail a wooden outrigger boat from the Philippines to Madagascar to recreate a possible voyage by Neolithic humans?
    • Source: "TAWI TAWI, Philippines -- On a tropical island miles from nowhere, Robert Hobman's dream is taking shape from a century-old tree chopped down in the jungle.

    The British-born adventurer has watched local boatbuilders on the Moslem island of Tawi Tawi carve the hardwood tree into a replica of a ship he believes Southeast Asians used to migrate to Africa hundreds of years before Christ.

    Seeking to unravel the mysteries of the migration, Hobman, four other adventurers and a Filipino navigator plan to set sail later this month on a 4,600-mile voyage from Tawi Tawi through the Indonesian Archipelago and across the Indian Ocean to Madagascar."

    UPI
    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 151 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 18:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jugtown Historic District

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    • ... that a brass band from the New Jersey community of Jugtown was rumored to have drank and fought the police instead of playing at Ulysses S. Grant's funeral?
    • ALT1: ... that an underground tunnel between two houses in what is now Jugtown Historic District was used to hide fugitive slaves? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, pp. 6-7
    • ALT2: ... that a pottery's presence in a New Jersey village gave it the name Jugtown? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, p. 4
    • Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Bear_season_2
    5x expanded by Lbal (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Not sure where or how to add the QPQ? I've reviewed another article but not sure if I did it correctly. Lbal (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Abortion in Gabon

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    • Source: [20] The draft amendment to the Penal Code extends the right to voluntary termination of pregnancy to some extent, although it remains highly conditional. "It is not yet the right time" to liberalise it, Ms Ossouka Raponda said.
    Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Tiny Glade

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    • ... that Tiny Glade was the fourth most played demo on 2024's Steam Next Fest?
    Moved to mainspace by JuniperChill (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    JuniperChill (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Foreign policy of the Masoud Pezeshkian administration

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    Created by Sportsnut24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 24

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    Shuah Khan

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    Created by AbdulRahim2002 (talk). Moved to mainspace by TParis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

    paul2520 💬 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jing Tsu

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    • ... that Jing Tsu's schoolteachers called her "female tiger" because their punishment had no effect on her?
    Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    Kimikel (talk) 04:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    A Nail Clipper Romance

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    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 06:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1. ^ 羅偉強 (16 April 2017). "【指甲刀人魔】彭浩翔關智耀專訪 拆解人魔由來". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 24 October 2024. 《指甲刀人魔》雲集兩岸三地演員，而香港代表僅得鄭伊健一人。在戲中作為唯一香港演員，卻不融入一眾內地與台灣演員中一起說普通話，到底為什麼有這樣的安排呢？莫非導演想令《指甲刀人魔》保留多一點香港氣息？原來導演與監製別有心思。「我們想演員以他最熟悉的語言去演繹，會令他以最自然的狀態去完成演出。」關智耀這樣說。而一旁的彭浩翔則從夏威夷的角色出發，他說：「我們在夏威夷所見的，就是很多華人根本就是廣東話與普通話夾雜。他們有一部分人從香港來，亦有部分從內地台灣來。因此我們覺得鄭伊健說廣東話，而其他人說普通話是很夏威夷的一件事。」無論原因是何，作為香港人的大家在戲中聽著伊健講廣東話，都會有多一分親切感吧。 [The film A Nail Clipper Romance features a cast from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong, with only Ekin Cheng representing Hong Kong. As the sole actor from Hong Kong, he does not speak Mandarin alongside the Chinese and Taiwanese actors. Why is this arrangement in place? Could it be that the director wants to retain a bit of Hong Kong’s essence in A Nail Clipper Romance? It turns out the director and producer have their reasons. "We want the actors to perform in the language they are most comfortable with, as it allows them to present their most natural state", says director Jason Kwan. Meanwhile, Pang Ho-cheung reflects on the Hawaiian context, stating, "What we see in Hawaii is that many Chinese people mix Cantonese and Mandarin. Some come from Hong Kong, while others come from the mainland and Taiwan. Therefore, we felt that having Ekin Cheng speak Cantonese while the others speak Mandarin is very representative of Hawaii". Regardless of the reason, as Hong Kongers, hearing Ekin speak Cantonese in the film adds a sense of familiarity and warmth.]
    2. ^ Ku, Daniel (6 April 2017). "愛情奇幻喜劇《指甲刀人魔》，張孝全、周冬雨夏威夷浪漫談情". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 7 October 2024. 到2010年，彭導與網路大電影合作，拍了名為《4夜奇譚》的網路短片系列，其中一夜就是由曾國祥和尹志文執導的《指甲刀人魔》，女主角更是找來周迅。當時影片獲得極高評價，大家都想知道故事的後續發展，因此彭導便有延伸為長篇電影的計畫，只是沒想到計畫一擱就是七年。 [By 2010, director Pang [Ho-cheung] collaborated with an online production company to create a series of web shorts called 4+1 Project, one of which is A Nail Clipper Romance, directed by Derek Tsang and Jimmy Wan, starring Zhou Xun as the female lead. At the time, the film was positively received, and everyone wanted to know what happened next in the story. As a result, Pang decided to expand it into a feature film, although the project ended up being put on hold for seven years.]
    3. ^ "鄭伊健去夏威夷拍戲勁開心 周冬雨讚張孝全性格夠獨特". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 9 March 2017. Archived from the original on 12 March 2017. Retrieved 7 October 2024. 由於全片在夏威夷取景，周冬雨因此愛上衝浪，她更透露跟監製彭浩翔一起衝浪有無比的榮耀感，彭浩翔學了七八節課，但她學了兩節就追上了。 [Since the entire film is shot in Hawaii, Zhou Dongyu falls in love with surfing. She also reveals that she was proud to surf with producer Pang Ho-cheung, as Pang took seven or eight lessons, while she only took two lessons before catching up to him.]
    4. ^ 翁新涵 (25 November 2016). "尷尬了╱阮經天緋聞女友 來台喊許瑋甯「奶奶」". Nownews (in Chinese). Retrieved 21 October 2024. 根據周冬雨表示，她主演的新片《指甲刀人魔》，有邀請許瑋甯客串 [According to Zhou Dongyu, in her new film A Nail Clipper Romance, [she] did invite Tiffany Ann Hsu to make a cameo appearance.]
    5. ^ Wong, Silva (16 March 2017). "'Love Off The Cuff' director talks Hong Kong festival opener". Screen Daily. Retrieved 24 October 2024. Despite his busy schedule as a writer/director, Pang takes time out to produce for new filmmakers such as Wan, Luk and Jason Kwan, the DoP on both Love In A Puff and Love In The Buff. The latter's directorial debut A Nail Clipper Romance, starring Zhou Dongyu and Joseph Chang, opens on April 14.

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    Every Night (Hannah Diamond song)

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    • ... that "Every Night", released ten years ago today, was called "the smartest dumb music out there"?
    Created by Skyshifter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Skyshiftertalk 19:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Trisha Stafford-Odom

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    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Murder of Wang Lianying

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    Selection from Awakening from a Dream
    • ... that the murder of Wang Lianying was followed by a blitz of newspaper coverage, books, stage performances, a film, and songs (example pictured)?
    • Source: Everywhere in the article, but probably the best overview is
    He, Qiliang (2018). Newspapers and the Journalistic Public in Republican China: 1917 as a Significant Year for Journalism. New York, London: Routledge. pp. 224–245. ISBN 978-0-429-79669-2.
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 698 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Boxheim Documents

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    • Source: Press and Politics in the Weimar Republic. OUP Oxford. pp. 186–187.
    Created by Jean Po (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Jean Po (talk) 15:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Interstate 59 in Alabama

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    • ... that in 2018, the I-59 and I-65 interchange in Birmingham, Alabama (Malfunction Junction) carried 160,000 vehicles instead of 80,000 as it was intended to hold?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by NoobThreePointOh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Voltairine de Cleyre

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    Voltairine de Cleyre (age 35)
    Voltairine de Cleyre (age 35)
    Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

    Grnrchst (talk) 11:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Kim Ju-ae

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    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xu Xinfu
    • Comment: I chose not to include the name "Kim Ju-ae" in this hook because her name has not been confirmed by either of the two Korean governments, as of the time of this nomination.
    Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    Yue🌙 04:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment I think having the hook be something like "... that the name of the daughter of North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un has not yet been confirmed by either Korea?" may be fun. Probably needs to be reworded to be less wordy though. seefooddiet (talk) 09:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT1: ... that North Korean media has never referred to Kim Jong Un's daughter by name, only as his "respected", "precious" or "beloved" daughter?
    Sources:
    ALT2: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter has not been confirmed by either of the two Koreas?
    Source: Kang, Hyun-kyung (16 November 2023). "North Korean leader's daughter known by wrong name: expert". The Korea Times. Retrieved 18 October 2024.
    ALT3: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter is not publicly known?
    Source: Same as ALT2's.
    The descriptors "Supreme Leader", "North Korean leader" or "its leader" could be added by the promoter to any of the hooks if they are successful, but I personally do not think the descriptors are necessary. I am confident that most readers would know who Kim Jong Un is, or at least be able to make the connection with the context of North Korea already there. Having so many extra words just makes the sentence wordy and unnatural. Yue🌙 22:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I like ALT3. Punchy and concise. In my orig proposal the reason I mentioned "either Koreas" is because the nature of their confirmation would differ, which is somewhat interesting. It means that North Korea did not announce it and South Korea hasn't figured it out yet. I think it's hard to communicate that though, so maybe just not worth mentioning. seefooddiet (talk) 00:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. Yue🌙 00:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Your Girl

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    • Source: The New Zealand Herald: "A sample from their New Zealand number one single 'A Life With You' features in 'Your Girl' on her new album, The Emancipation of Mimi."
    Improved to Good Article status by Heartfox (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Heartfox (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Ornithoprion

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    A skeletal restoration of Ornithoprion
    A skeletal restoration of Ornithoprion
    Improved to Good Article status by Gasmasque (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Gasmasque (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    All-Russian Union of Assyrians "Khoyad-Atur"

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    • Source: Е. Н. Данилова. ДЕЯТЕЛЬНОСТЬ ВСЕРОССИЙСКОГО СОЮЗА АССИРИЙЦЕВ В 20-30-е ГОДЫ XX в. Э О , 2005 г., № 2
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 409 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Marina Kondratyeva2

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    Kondratyeva as Giselle in 1972.jpg
    Kondratyeva as Giselle in 1972.jpg
    Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2122 past nominations.

    --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The issue is that the hook does arguably fail both DYKINT and DYKTRIM. Yes the NYT is prestigious, but a hook about a person being praised for doing their job doesn't really work as a hooky hook. It would be like having a hook on DYK saying "DYK that Lionel Messi was praised in the press for his performance during the World Cup final?" Yes a good accomplishment, but not necessarily what DYK is looking for. The other, probably more salient point here, is DYKTRIM: the hooks has several details that may distract from the main point of the hook (that she was praised for her role). DYKTRIM states don't be afraid to trim hooks of extraneous information and clauses. Even if DYKINT is subjective, DYKTRIM is less so. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For example, ALT0 could be simplified to simply "... that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?" Mostly the same idea but a lot shorter per WP:DYKTRIM. I'm still not a fan of that specific angle, but if you really want to go with that one, said wording may meet the guidelines better than the original. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You are free to improve the hook, and I like the direction, but ALT0 could still play in Moscow, and the appearance of the complete Russian troupe on New York's most prestigious stage during the Cold War, which I found surprising to put it mildly, would be lost. Minor issues: I try to have the bolded subject in front, and not as a possessive, and I feel that "NYT headline" might be too sloppy for the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I really don't think ALT0 is going to work out or meet the guidelines, so I've struck it. I'm reproposing two of the hooks from the previous nomination below and offering them as options:
    ALT0a that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's (pictured) 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?
    ALT1 ... that ballerina Marina Kondratyeva (pictured) was said to be "weightless, airy, poetic and spiritual"?
    ALT2 ... that ballerina Marina Kondratyeva (pictured) served the Bolshoi Ballet and its school for over 70 years?
    Is this okay with you, as a compromise? The choice in hook could be left to a different reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You didn't answer my question: How about leaving the review to someone else? Remember? ALT0a: there's still no clue that this played in New York City (not Moscow), and not she is pictured, but she in the role. ALT1: That she appears as weightless and airy is well captured in the image, - no need to say it in quoted words. That she is a ballerina is also clearly visible. ALT2: The sheer length of time served doesn't say a word about that she was top both dancing and training, let alone being the chosen one for a U.S. tour.
    ALT0b: ... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared as Giselle (pictured) with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, she was praised in the headline of the New York Times?
    ALT0c: ... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, the headline of the New York Times said that she excelled as Giselle (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The issue is WP:DYKTRIM and the hooks you proposed arguably do not meet it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    To answer your question directly: I already offered to let someone else review the nomination if you agreed to ALT0a, since it met DYKTRIM. Given I technically proposed ALT1 and ALT2, I couldn't have reviewed the nomination anyway (nor can Storye book since those were originally her proposals). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Floq, what do you think? I pinged you before to just take notice, but since, N. struck two more hooks that I believe are concise enough, and trimming further would reduce information. We claim "did you know", - saying that a ballerina was described as weightless is not passing knowledge, nor that someone served a notable organization for 70 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    With the caveats that (a) I'm not terribly familiar with the social mores of DYK, and (b) I'm responding to a ping, so I'm not uninvolved:
    • If I recall correctly, NLH brought GA to ANI because they felt GA's blurbs were routinely too long and not interesting. And received really strong negative feeback for doing so. It seems suboptimal for NLH to continue to review GA's blurbs and complain they are too long and not interesting. Surely there are enough reviewers for someone else to review?
    • Interesting, in particular, is in the eye of the beholder, and NLH received feedback that their eye does not seem to match the overall DYK community.
    • It appears a hook should be around 150-160 characters, with an absolute max of 200. This one is 163 or 195 (not sure if you folks count spaces). That seems within range if DYK typically doesn't count spaces, and maybe in need of a trim if DYK usually does.
    • Since I'm semi-involved, I won't try to propose a shorter hook myself. The current one doesn't seem confusing, though, which I would think is more important than simple length.
    • There might be other things I'm not aware of, so if I've ignored something the DYK community considers important, take this with a grain of salt.
    --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The Christmas Invasion

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    • Source: this is the first story for Doctor Who clearly labelled as a Christmas special [Pixley, Andrew (9 November 2006). "Series Two Companion". Doctor Who Magazine. No. 14 – Special Edition. Page=13]
    • ALT1: ... that "The Christmas Invasion" was the first time Doctor Who had featured on the Radio Times Christmas edition cover in the show's forty-two-year history? Source: On 3 December 2005, the annual Christmas edition of the BBC's listings magazine Radio Times was released, featuring a Doctor Who cover to tie-in with "The Christmas Invasion".[25]
    • ALT2: ... that "The Christmas Invasion" was the first full episode starring David Tennant as the Tenth Doctor? Source: This special was the first full episode starring David Tennant as the Tenth Doctor.
    • Reviewed:
    Improved to Good Article status by DoctorWhoFan91 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    GeoNet (New Zealand)

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    • ... that people have tried drawing phalluses on the earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?
    Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

    ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Length, date, qpq, close paraphrase check ok. But is there a possibility for a second reference for the hook fact? The notion that 'certain appendage' is to be understood as a dick requires a bit of reading between the lines, but the ref also talks about this as an one-off incident. --Soman (talk) 11:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hmm okay. I've had a look for another source but couldn't find one. Does this mean that I have to find another fact? I've at least changed the plurality of the hook to address that concern.
    ALT1:
    ... that people have tried drawing a phallus on the earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?
    ―Panamitsu (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But still, we have one source saying that maybe someone once drew a dick using the platform. Unless there is another ref indicating that the trolling of the site would be a phenomenon, I'd suggest that another factoid be used for ALT hook. --Soman (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Bob Hainlen

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    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 267 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    History of Key West

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    A Key West street car on Greene Street in 1904
    A Key West street car on Greene Street in 1904
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    • Comment: Key West's wrecking, cigar, and salt manufacturing industries allowed it to become one of the wealthiest cities in the United States per capita.
    Created by Bronson Fotiadis1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Bronson Fotiadis1 (talk) 00:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - Some of the sources used are not reliable (such as Conch Tour Train, WorldPopulationReview, nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com [a non-official site], etc.).
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - Some close paraphrasing picked up by Earwig is a cause for concern, such as the Federal Wrecking Act paragraph.

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - WorldPopulationReview is not a reliable source.
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - The link is far, far too long.

    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: The article needs some polishing and some new hooks would be appreciated. SounderBruce 01:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Diana Edwards-Jones

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    Created by EnthusiastWorld37 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 20:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Articles created/expanded on October 28

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    Gilopez Kabayao

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    • Source: "As the first Filipino violinist to perform at the prestigious Carnegie Hall in New York in 1950, Gilopez Kabayao broke new ground and brought pride to the nation." —Philippine Daily Inquirer / Inquirer.net; "He performed in prestigious venues, including Carnegie Hall in New York in 1950, making him the first Filipino violinist to do so." —SunStar
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anatolii Brezvin
    • Comment: Many sources state that Kabayao's Carnegie Hall performance in 1950 was done when he was 19 years old, but this is impossible if he was born in 1929 so I omitted this from the article and therefore the hook. This error might affect the hook under WP:EXCEPTIONAL and especially since a different source (Manila Bulletin) says, "Kabayao is widely believed to be the first Filipino to play at the prestigious Carnegie Hall in New York City".
    Created by Seav (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    seav (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Charles de Gaulle's trip to South America

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    • Source: "Toujours est-il que les relations franco-brésiliennes s'étaient détériorées. Le Gouverneur de Rio deJaneiro, Carlos LACERDA décide deboycotter l'arrivée dugénéral dons sa ville etc'est le président de la République brésilienne qui doit aller accueillir son hôte à l'arrivée du «Colbert» dons la plus fameuse rode dumonde" Leprun (1994), p. 12
    • Reviewed: [[]]
    • Comment: Found this article while new page patrolling.
    Created by Sintropepe (talk) and Kimdime (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Can you provide a quotation from the source linking the refusal to the lobster war, so it can be translated and verified? The article makes frequent opinion statements and makes liberal use of opinion adjectives. I think greater attribution in the article of who is stating such opinions is necessary. Also, inline citations are missing from the ends of the following paragraphs:

    • "By 1964, France had essentially completed..."
    • "De Gaulle arrived in Mexico on..."
    • "Francia trata de ayudar..."
    • "He was greeted by President Belaúnde Terry..."
    • "Peruanos, Francia, tierra..."
    • "The following day..."
    • "On 6 October, the President..."
    • "Brazil was not initially on the French..."
    • "In the short term..."
    • "The Colombian government gave various..."

    Ergo Sum 03:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Chromakopia

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    • ... that the physical version of Chromakopia contains an extra song?
    • Reviewed:
    5x expanded by MontanaMako (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MontanaMako (talk) 21:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Near-miss effect

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    • ... that gamblers have an inflated confidence when they choose a lottery ticket or throw the roulette ball compared to when another agent does so?
    • Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2658737/
      (However, it is repeatedly observed that gamblers have inflated confidence (indicated by wager size, for example) when given the opportunity to choose their lottery ticket or throw the dice or roulette ball themselves, compared to conditions where the action is performed by another.)
    • ALT1: ... that due to the near-miss effect, gamblers may mistake a game of luck for a game of skill? Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2658737/
      (The presence of personal control may be a core factor in causing the gambler to mistake a game of chance for a game with some skill component, which is effectively controllable.)
    • Reviewed: [[]]
    Moved to mainspace by Anonymous1261 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Who am I? / Talk to me! / What have I done? 13:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Nocturna (band)

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    • Source: Stillnight, Rehn (January 2022). "Nocturna" (Interview). Interviewed by Jeffrey. Metalfan. Retrieved October 28, 2024.
    Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 127 past nominations.

    Cambalachero (talk) 16:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Zeng Laishun

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    Zeng, c. 1880s
    Zeng, c. 1880s
    • ... that Zeng Laishun (pictured) was the first Chinese person to attend college in the United States?
    • Source: Rhoads, Edward J. M. (2011) Stepping Forth into the World: The Chinese Educational Mission to the United States, 1872–81. Pg. 3
    Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 87 past nominations.

    Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Taurus 09

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    Roping exercises during Taurus 09
    Roping exercises during Taurus 09
    • ... that Taurus 09 (exercise pictured) was the largest Royal Navy deployment in more than ten years?
    • Source: "Joining Alpha Company, 40 Commando Royal Marines, he took part in numerous exercises, most notably TAURUS 09, the largest Royal Naval deployment in over 10 years," from: "Marine Scott Gregory Taylor killed in Afghanistan". British Government. Retrieved 9 October 2024.
    • ALT1: ... that the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment (exercise pictured) was featured in the TV series Warship? Source: "Visitors included the former and present First Sea Lords, Admiral Band and Stanhope respectively, a film crew from Granada TV producing the next series of Warship for channel 5" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
    • ALT2: ... that as part of the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment sailors from HMS Somerset rowed the length of the Suez Canal? Source: "on the way home through Suez, 81 Somerset officers and sailors 'rowed' the canal, each one rowing two kilometres as quickly as they could, achieving the distance in a total of 10 hours 40 minutes" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert Smith (mineralogist)
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 897 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    I Hotel (novel)

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    • ... that novelist Karen Tei Yamashita finally realized the structure of her novel, I Hotel, by cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes, using each one to represent a year in the book?
    • Source: ... so instead she went home and cut out 10 pieces of cardboard, which she scored and folded into cubes: one for each year leading up to the hotel’s destruction. Each cube was inscribed with precise indicators, one per side—a year paired with a world-historical event, a location in the Bay Area paired with a location abroad, a theme, and three characters, composites from her interviews and her imagination.
    Source: The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ihotel-novel-karen-tei-yamashita-review/)
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    Created by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 01:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    God of Amiens

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    Head of the God of Amiens
    Head of the God of Amiens
    • ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has a protruding animal ear?
    • ALT1: ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has lost his serpent? Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shunten
    • Comment: ALT1 is fun, but you might rightly reject it since it relies on a reconstruction, put forth by Lerat, of the statuette as once holding a serpent and grapes. To my knowledge nobody has rejected this reconstruction (Mahéo and Deonna explicitly concur) but it is just a reconstruction.
    Created by Tenpop421 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Tenpop421 (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Peel's Cut

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    Dumelow (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Timeless Voyage

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    • ... that the author of the comic book Timeless Voyage was the leader of a UFO religion? Source: Abgrall, Jean-Marie (1999). "Sectes Ufologiques". Les sectes de l'apocalypse: gourous de l'an 2000 (in French). Paris: Calmann-Lévy. p. 95. ISBN 978-2-7021-2954-8. Troisième et dernier mouvement exclusivement ufologique répertorié dans le rapport parlementaire sur les sectes : le groupe Siderella, connu sous les appellations successives de Isozen, Futura, Galacteus, Euro-Culture, Italia, Résonances nouvelles, Azur Mieux-Ëtre, les Voyageurs intemporels et, enfin, Siderella. Fondé et dirigé par Jean-Paul Appel — de son nom de gourou Appel Guery [...]. Appel Guery est aussi l'auteur du scénario de la bande dessinée par Sergio Macedo, Voyage intemporel [...]
    Created by PARAKANYAA (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Carrlyn Bathe

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    Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

    Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Sheetz–Wawa rivalry

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    • Source: "In 2020, noted Sheetz freak Sen. John Fetterman (then the state’s lieutenant governor) and U.S. Rep. Brendan Boyle, an ardent Wawa fan, penned op-eds for The Inquirer debating the merits of each chain. In 2021, they participated in a Wawa vs. Sheetz debate on Zoom hosted by City & State Pennsylvania." Philadelphia Inquirer
    Moved to mainspace by Dan Leonard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Piri Reis

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    • ... that there was limited appreciation for Piri Reis' cartography during his own life?
      • Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144. Arrested by the Ottoman governor of Egypt, Piri Reis was executed in 1553 in compliance with an order issued from the imperial headquarters. The sultan probably never recalled – if in fact he ever noticed it – that the aged mariner had at the time of his enthronement dedicated a book called Kitabı Bahriye to him, and that still earlier he had made a strange map whose mutilated remains lay forgotten in the library of Topkapı Palace. [...] Piri Reis and his work occupy a special place in the framework of the exhibition "L'Age d'or des cartes marines: Quand l'Europe découvrait le monde". They show that although the Ottoman Empire had the potential to participate in the discoveries, its ruling elite spurned the attempt to blaze a trail in this direction made by a representative of a marginal group whose other members too ran into dead ends. [...] Piri Reis ran into a dead end as a cartographer [...]
      • ALT1: ... that Piri Reis transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
      • ALT2: ... that Piri Reis advocated for and took part in Suleiman the Magnificent's 1522 Siege of Rhodes?
        • Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216. 6. It was one of these gazi-corsairs, Kemal Reis, who suggested repeatedly to Beyazit II that he embark on conquests of potential bases on Rhodes and the Peloponnese, and offered expert advice on how to do it. This was recorded by Kemal Reis's nephew Piri Reis in his Kitab-i bahriye, a book of sailing directions for the Mediterranean compiled in two versions, the first in 1520 and the second in 1526. Advice on how to conquer Rhodes is included, understandably, only in the first version.
        • İnan, Afet; Yolaç, Leman (trans.) (1954). The Oldest Map of America, Drawn by Piri Reis. Ankara: Türk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi. p. 14. OCLC 2435662. Piri's taking part in the Turkish fleet going to the campaign on Rhodes in 1523 is to be regarded as only natural.
        • Source: The context in the end-of-paragraph source makes the above more clear → Isom-Verhaaren, Christine (2022). The Sultan's fleet: seafarers of the Ottoman empire (First published ed.). London New York Oxford New Delhi Sydney: I.B. Tauris. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7556-4173-4. Also, Kemal Reis or, in actuality, Piri Reis offered this advice to the sultan clearly noting that any plans would be contingent on the sultan's approval. No plan of conquest would be followed unless the sultan was convinced of its feasibility or benefit to the empire. Kemal or Piri also advised against allowing some individuals to consider themselves too important to be required to bring a bag of dirt to help construct a fortress on Kumburnu. Kemal and/or Piri warned against the pretensions of the elite, who considered themselves superior to the men who would be recruited to implement this plan. The conflict between the administrative elite and seafarers echoes throughout this advice.
      • ALT3: ... that Piri Reis did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
      • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Albright
      • Comment: There are some photos of sculptures of Piri Reis (like File:Piri reis.jpg) but so far as I know, no likeness was made during his lifetime. ALT3 summarizes the "Legacy" section, but this may be stretching things too much.
    Improved to Good Article status by Rjjiii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    Rjjiii (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Boise Pro Soccer

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    SounderBruce 22:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Cycling in China

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    • Source: Tao Xu. "The Rise of the Kingdom of Bicycles". pg. 413. Norcliffe, Glen; Brogan, Una; Cox, Peter; Gao, Boyang; Hadland, Tony; Hanlon, Sheila; Jones, Tim; Oddy, Nicholas; Vivanco, Luis, eds. (2023). Routledge Companion to Cycling. Routledge. ISBN 9780367695088.
    Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 89 past nominations.

    Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 16:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Tommy Suggs

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    Created by JJonahJackalope (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

    JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    7th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)

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    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Charel Allen

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    • ALT2: ... that basketball player Charel Allen was a five-time Bulgarian Cup champion despite only knowing a few words of Bulgarian?
    • Sources: Five-time champ, "a few words", further context on language barrier: "Halftime speeches are usually all in Bulgarian,” Allen said of the language barrier. “Coach (Stefan Mihaylov) trusts me, though. With my knowledge of the game, I know what he's saying and what we need to do. If not, he'll translate for me later and let me know what I needed to do."]
    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Interstate 59 in Georgia

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    • ... that Interstate 59 only has three exits in the U.S. state of Georgia?
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    • Comment: Even though the source shows a blank site, simply click the drop-down menu below and select "Interstate 59" from there. It should display the exits the Interstate has.
    Created by NoobThreePointOh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Gifted (2022 novella)

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    • ... that in 2022, all five book nominations for the Akutagawa Prize were written by women, including former Japanese adult actress Suzumi Suzuki, who wrote Gifted after her own experiences?
    • Source: (Translated from Japanese to English)

    Suzuki Suzumi, whose book "Gifted" (Bungeishunju) was nominated for the 167th Akutagawa Prize, says that while her unexpected background has attracted attention, it has also led to prejudice and labelling.

    For the first time in history, only female writers have been nominated for the 167th Akutagawa Prize, which will be announced on July 20th. Among them, Suzuki Suzumi, who was nominated for "Gifted," made her AV debut while studying at Keio University. After that, she worked for a newspaper company and graduated from the University of Tokyo, and is now active as a writer and columnist, which has attracted attention for her unusual career.

    Source: Oricon News (https://www.oricon.co.jp/special/59840/)
      • ALT1: ... that former adult film actress Suzumi Suzuki pivoted to writing literature in 2022 with her novel, Gifted, which became one of five books nominated for the Akutagawa Prize that year? Source: Same as first source
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    Created by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Details Cannot Body Wants

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    Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 06:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bejeweled (video game)

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    Lazman321 (talk) 22:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Backflip (figure skating)

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    French figure skater Surya Bonaly
    Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

    Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Adrenal crisis

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    Forty-nine year-old with an adrenal crisis.
    Forty-nine year-old with an adrenal crisis.
    • ... that the death rate from adrenal crises can amount to 6%? Source: Hahner et al. 2015
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    Improved to Good Article status by IntentionallyDense (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Zhu Baosan

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    Zhu Baosan
    Zhu Baosan
    • ... that the fortune left by Zhu Baosan (pictured) was reported to have been greatly diminished by his philanthropic activities?
    • Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "Although Mr. Chu Pao-san was a successful merchant and had such numerous business interests, friends believe that he left only a small fortune, as his contributions to charity were so large."
    • ALT1: ... that the business interests of Zhu Baosan (pictured) ranged from banking and insurance to shipping and coal mining? Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "He promoted the Commercial’ Bank of China, the Ningpo Commercial Bank, the Chekiang Industrial Bank and the Chung Hua Commercial. and Savings Bank. He was an organizer of the Wah An Fire and Marine Insurance Company, the Wah Sing Insurance Company, and the China United Assurance Society. He was a director of the Liu Kiang and Chang Hsin Mining Companies. He was interested in the Nantao Tramway Company, the Tinghai Electric [Construction “Company” and the Chousan Electric Company. He was a director of the Chousan Steam Navigation Company, the Yung An Steamship Company, the Yung Leo Shipping Company, 'the Chang Ko Navigation Company, the Ta Tah Navigation Company and in several other shipping interests. He was a prominent shareholder in many cotton and flour mills, pap factories and other industrial enterprises."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Falcón state (1 of 2)
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 700 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    New World Mall

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    New World Mall
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    Created by Morgan695 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 167 past nominations.

    Morgan695 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

    QPQ: No - Not done
    Overall: Interesting and well-sourced article. No copyright problems. It is new and long enough. Both hooks are interesting (I suspect ALT1 may be more timely). Waiting on the QPQ... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @CurryTime7-24: QPQ has been completed. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Arthur France

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    • ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
    • Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
    Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    David Hilchen

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    Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Tel al-Sultan attack

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    Personisinsterest (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'd like to propose some alternative hooks, if that's okay:

    1. ALT1 = ... that the "Kuwaiti Peace" tent camp, struck by Israeli fighter jets, was located only 200 meters from the largest UNRWA humanitarian aid storage warehouse in the Gaza Strip? Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-rockets-central-israel-gaza-strip-sirens/

    2. ALT2 = ... that a viral image showing tents in Rafah arranged to spell "All Eyes on Rafah" called for global attention to the humanitarian crisis following the Tel al-Sultan attack? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/world/middleeast/all-eyes-on-rafah.html

    3. ALT3 = ... that the Tel al-Sultan attack was the deadliest incident of the Rafah offensive? Source: https://www.axios.com/2024/05/27/rafah-tent-camp-strike-biden-israel-red-line

    Annie Huggett

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    • ... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?
    • Source: "Annie Huggett was born Annie Clara French in Halstead, Essex, in 1892 ... Though Annie was never arrested, she was very much part of the suffragette movement, and organised meetings for the cause in the former George Inn in Barking Broadway – known then as the Three Lamps – when she was just 18." from: Hedges-Stocks, Zoah (21 September 2016). "Post Memories: Women's centre named after Barking suffragette Annie Huggett". Barking and Dagenham Post. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
    • ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
    • ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Fripp
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 899 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Dolichostachys

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    Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk

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    Eastern Venus

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    Eastern Venus at Kobe
    Eastern Venus at Kobe
    • ... that on the ship Eastern Venus (pictured), the "Modern" suite is not in modern style?
    "The largest cabins onboard Pacific Venus are 4 Royal Suites (65 m2) located behind the bridge, named "Archaic" (1001), "Modern" (1002), "Elegant" (1003), "Noble" (1004). They are decorated in two styles, with "Modern" and "Archaic" in traditional Japanese style, "Noble" and "Elegant" being more contemporary."
      • Reviewed:
    Created by Memer15151 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    UserMemer (chat) Tribs 21:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Puff-puff (onomatopoeia)

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    Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Patrick J. Ryan (chaplain)

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    Chaplain Ryan, c. 1937
    Chaplain Ryan, c. 1937
    Improved to Good Article status by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Amer Ghalib

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    Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Codex Monacensis (X 033)

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    Stephen Walch (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Gregory, Caspar René (1900). Textkritik des Neuen Testaments. Vol. 1. Leipzig: J.C. Hinrichs. pp. 82–83.

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    Michael O'Kane

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    Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Carlyle Hotel

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    The Carlyle Hotel
    5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 683 past nominations.

    Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Moe's Books

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    • ... that in 2016, two thieves stole a van filled with $350,000 worth of rare books in Oakland, California, and tried to sell first editions of William Faulkner and Cormac McCarthy to Moe's Books nearby?
    • Source: He’s been in the book dealing business for more than 15 years, but Lawrence Van De Carr said he’d never come across such a jewel of a title: a mint copy of Isaac Asimov’s 1950 classic “I, Robot” valued at $8,500.

    That novel, once a prized possession of Van De Carr’s, is now gone, along with around 400 of his other books worth well over $350,000. Someone stole his van while it was parked outside a friend’s Oakland home this week.

    Joshua Anderson, 30, went to Moe’s Books in Berkeley shortly after the bookseller’ association sent out an alert. He and an alleged accomplice had four books, valued around $14,000, that they were trying to sell, said John Wong, manager at the store.

    Among the classic first-editions they were trying to deal were “A Hornbook for Witches: Poems of Fantasy” by Leah Bodine Drake, one of only 563 known copies; “No Country for Old Men” by McCarthy, “Always Comes Evening” by Robert E. Howard, and “Pylon” by William Faulkner.

    Source: SFGate (https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Van-filled-with-350-000-rare-books-stolen-in-6843521.php)
      • Reviewed:
    Converted from a redirect by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 23:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Cathedral Cemetery

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    • Source: It was founded in 1849 by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia and is the first catholic cemetery founded in Philadelphia. (guidetophilly.com)
    • ALT1: ... that over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry are interred at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia? Source: The cemetery contains the burial of over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, a volunteer regiment of Irish immigrants that fought at the Battle of Gettysburg and other major battles of the American Civil War. (Keels - page 97)
    • ALT2: ... that the funds from the sale of burial lots at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia were used for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul? Source: The cemetery was named Cathedral Cemetery since funds raised by the sale of burial lots were intended for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. (Keels - page 91)
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    Dwkaminski (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Big Motor

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    FossilDS (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Abu Sulayman Da'ud

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    • Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
    • ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
    • ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
    • Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
    Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 185 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Ethanoligenens harbinense

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    Hmsuth4770 (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jiangwan Racecourse

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    Jiangwan Racecourse
    • ... that the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?
    • Source: Sports facilities: Chen Yangyang (陈洋阳) (5 February 2016). 老上海体育建筑遗存：江湾跑马厅民国时期面貌考 参考网 [Remains of Old Shanghai Sports Buildings: A Study of the Appearance of the Jiangwan Racecourse during the Republic of China Period]. Sports Research (in Chinese). 4. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 3 November 2024 – via Back Issue Magazine Reading Platform and Reference Network.;
    POWs: "China Marks Time Till Wu Succeeds or Fails". The China Weekly Review. Shanghai. 1 November 1924. pp. 290–291. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 702 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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